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On A SS joint cue would you use a softer tip compared to a wood to wood joint - 09-14-2020, 07:39 PM

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We were discussing this the other day. I prefer a Medium tip but some people say that a cue with a SS joint would have a stiffer hit and may need a softer tip to compensate for it. I have played a few Cues that were SS that did feel very stiff and have played with some that were not and you could not tell the difference between it and a Wood to Wood joint. Fwiw my Son got a Triangle tip installed over the weekend $10 bux including pro installed and Man that things plays good , it is taking English really well and I can really make that cue ball dance with it. I am impressed with how it plays.
  
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09-14-2020, 07:45 PM

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09-14-2020, 07:47 PM

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09-14-2020, 07:49 PM

I have the same tip on all my cues, regardless of the joint.


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09-14-2020, 09:06 PM

I put a triangle on my predator 12.9 shaft on my schon (ss joint). Plays much better than the soft predator tip that it came with.
  
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09-14-2020, 09:07 PM

The feel of a hit is a magical thing where the stick vibrates exactly as YOUR brain really hopes it will vibrate. I donít worry about that much. I already know my brain will get used to and then later anticipate the feel of whichever stick/joint/tip I commit to.

My choice on tip is exactly this. Iíd love it to be as soft as possible because I like it to really grip the ball and not miscue. And maybe my brain hopes to feel that squishy hit and hear that soft padded thump of a soft tip hit. That said, too soft of a tip has a tendency to harden over time. So my experience of the tip is in a constant state of flux. Plus it wants to mushroom, meaning Iím constantly maintaining my tip. Itís a lot of attention Iím putting on my tip (and not on my patterns and stroke).

Eventually I get tired of all that obsession over a tip. I still donít like hard tips because the sound is too shrill. They seem like they are meant for break cues where you donít need much spin, want more energy transfer, and want more durability from slamming racks. More importantly I miscue more with them.

So I settle for a medium tip. It doesnít mushroom much or at all. And if I grab a layered tip to boot, they are also very consistent out of the box and between boxes. A medium tip still needs some scuffing but is much more consistent over its lifespan.

So all those considerations tend to overrule any thoughts on joint pairing or hit preference. Iíll put any layered medium tip on any cue and commit to it.


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09-14-2020, 09:21 PM

For the most part it doesn't matter, especially at normal stroking velocities.
When you really drill the ball there is more going on and maybe a harder tip would feel and hit better than a soft tip.

Basically when I'm in stroke I like a hard tip, out of stroke like now I like a softer tip, the
cue design doesn't have much to do with it.


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09-14-2020, 09:41 PM

What about a leather joint with a stainless tip?


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09-14-2020, 09:43 PM

I really only use two cues, and I have tiger snipers on both of them. I like soft tips, but I went through them too quickly -- like ice at a fourth of july bbq. I think the secret is using a pick to keep the tip surface open -- effectively "softening" them.


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What about a leather joint with a stainless tip?

A leather jock with a strapless top?


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09-14-2020, 09:44 PM

Play the tip you like the most because anything else only invites disappointment.


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09-14-2020, 10:02 PM

Or play with a phenolic if you like disappointment. If you're not sure, just give up chalk.

I use elkmasters on everything I have. As previously mentioned, the grab and cush are the deal. Mine hit like rubber. I switched from WB blacks. Lost the last one of the box and only had too small elkmasters. Put it on undersized and all; never looked back.

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09-15-2020, 04:29 AM

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We were discussing this the other day. I prefer a Medium tip but some people say that a cue with a SS joint would have a stiffer hit and may need a softer tip to compensate for it. I have played a few Cues that were SS that did feel very stiff and have played with some that were not and you could not tell the difference between it and a Wood to Wood joint. Fwiw my Son got a Triangle tip installed over the weekend $10 bux including pro installed and Man that things plays good , it is taking English really well and I can really make that cue ball dance with it. I am impressed with how it plays.
SS cues aren't always stiff and W-2-W aren't always soft hitting. Pick the tip you like. Have to try a few to find out. Would you ask someone what the best beer/scotch/cigar/food is and then go buy it? Gotta try 'em out yourself.

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09-15-2020, 08:38 AM

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