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06-24-2019, 12:00 PM

Its easy to sell the story on people getting college at bargain prices.

If Bernie can pull it off, taxing Wall Street doesn't exactly sound like something they will just lie down and get spanked for.

Bernie could argue that colleges are price gouging.

Bernie could even say that colleges are not meeting the needs of the growing and ever changing US population.

Bernie could argue that employers that depend on college graduates need more college graduates, the problem is colleges are graduating the needs of employers.

What Bernie fails to address are the admission scandals, social hazing and sexual harassment culture ongoing in higher education? Giving these institutions more money to promote a culture of shady secret double dealing, drinking to the death and sexual assault negligence is grossly absurd.
  
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06-24-2019, 12:52 PM

"Forgive." Interesting way to describe it.
  
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06-24-2019, 01:23 PM

Why is our Resident Liberal Peanut Gallery so silent on this one?


If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.


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06-24-2019, 01:38 PM

Lets all go get them free degrees.

Is it other peoples money?


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06-24-2019, 04:45 PM

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I would call my daughter's college dirt cheap, very affordable. So the answer to "where?" is right here where I am sitting IMHO.

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"Cheap" is a subjective term. Cheap compared to what you paid for medical school? Cheap relative to your annual income? Sure......it probably is.

I'm looking at it from the perspective of an 18 year old paying for their own tuition with an entry-level low skilled job.
  
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06-24-2019, 11:26 PM

when I was doing my Bachelors degree....I paid about 25EUR/year Registration fee.... that was the tuition cost for me. In comparison, I would call that dirt-cheap. However like we all know, it is bought and paid for in other ways...through taxes....income and sales....democratic choice of the People.


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06-25-2019, 05:28 AM

In America if your family makes less than a certain amount of money, financial aid will pay for college, room and board and books.

Bernie isn't doing anything new, other than extending financial aid to wealthier families.


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when I was doing my Bachelors degree....I paid about 25EUR/year Registration fee.... that was the tuition cost for me. In comparison, I would call that dirt-cheap. However like we all know, it is bought and paid for in other ways...through taxes....income and sales....democratic choice of the People.
  
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06-25-2019, 05:44 AM

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"Cheap" is a subjective term. Cheap compared to what you paid for medical school? Cheap relative to your annual income? Sure......it probably is.

I'm looking at it from the perspective of an 18 year old paying for their own tuition with an entry-level low skilled job.
Cheap for her. I wouldn't compare it to med school, or even my undergrad. Some of my undergrad was more expensive than med school.

I think it's no more than $3,000 a year, $1,500 a semester at most. That's about 10% of the income from a full time minimum wage job I think.

She is paying for it herself mainly.

One time I took her shopping for school supplies. She was stunned when we got to the register and I paid. It was something like $150.

There was another time when I did write a check for her tuition. I think it was somewhere between $1,200 and $1,500. Why? Because I could and it felt good doing it. Again she was stunned.

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06-25-2019, 06:53 AM

Bernie can forgive on his own nickel.

Notice he is not talking about writing payments from his immense
checking account. No. He is talking about writing checks from
yours and our checkbooks.

Just another inconsiderate pr!ck.


  
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06-25-2019, 06:58 AM

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In America if your family makes less than a certain amount of money, financial aid will pay for college, room and board and books.

Bernie isn't doing anything new, other than extending financial aid to wealthier families.
as far as I understood, he was talking about nullifying already existing Student-loans...not creating a new financial aid program.
I would assume that the wealthier families already paid for the tuition more or less in cash whereas the poorer families had to lean on loans more....meaning the Impact of such program would be larger the poorer you are.


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as far as I understood, he was talking about nullifying already existing Student-loans...not creating a new financial aid program.
I would assume that the wealthier families already paid for the tuition more or less in cash whereas the poorer families had to lean on loans more....meaning the Impact of such program would be larger the poorer you are.
The poorest families in America can get financial aid that will pay their entire college education with room and board. Some of those students even get reimbursements because the government overpays.

That is with the current system.

When Bernie talks he is address the upper middle class, families that make a living but want to send their children to Harvard priced colleges. The only people setting the price of Harvard is Harvard.

Unlike lower cost alternatives which tuition is priced around other factors. Getting quality students at lower cost schools is a historical problem.

My version of the Bernie speech is a well to do middle class family can afford Harvard but at bargain prices. Bernie is talking to middle class voters, not people that actually have no other alternative than to succeed with an education or trade school.

Bernie is not talking to people that barely graduated high school. People that have high school from another country, people that have HS equivalency or people that have no high school but are adults looking to be accepted into college. Bernie is talking to money for people with money.

The celebrity admissions scandal, families don't have to send their kid to college. They can just use their star power and get them media jobs.

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06-25-2019, 07:14 AM

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The poorest families in America can get financial aid that will pay their entire college education with room and board. Some of those students even get reimbursements because the government overpays.

That is with the current system.

When Bernie talks he is address the upper middle class, families that make a living but want to send their children to Harvard priced colleges. The only people setting the price of Harvard is Harvard.

Unlike lower cost alternatives which tuition is priced around other factors. Getting quality students at lower cost schools is a historical problem.

My version of the Bernie speech is a well to do middle class family can afford Harvard but at bargain prices. Bernie is talking to middle class voters, not people that actually have no other alternative than to succeed with an education or trade school.

Bernie is not talking to people that barely graduated high school. People that have high school from another country, people that have HS equivalency or people that have no high school but are adults looking to be accepted into college. Bernie is talking to money for people with money.

The celebrity admissions scandal, families don't have to send their kid to college. They can just use their star power and get them media jobs.
What Bernie is doing is trying to buy votes with impossible and socialistic promises...the details be damned. Wake up and stop being duped into believing these a$$hole psychopaths who want to be KING!
  
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06-25-2019, 07:23 AM

Bernie isn't talking about making people employable, graduating people out of poverty or addressing the shortage of workers in construction.

Bernie is talking about money and taking it from someone to give it to someone else with the intention of people benefiting.

Bernie could have said plumbers, electricians, HVAC installers, carpenters and even welders have great salaries and valuable training programs where you make money while you are training.

How common is it for someone to say, do you know a good roofer, or someone that does quality work on a remodel, or someone that can wire a house properly?

It is almost a given that infrastructure builders have low quality work, unless you pay triple the standard rate.

Bernie isn't solving problems Americans have.

Bernie is solving a cash flow problem in public colleges, where quantity matters more than quality. Public colleges do admit students, they admit so many they can afford to flunk out half of their admissions group. Any other business that takes on clients for a partial job would go out of business.
  
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Bernie isn't talking about making people employable, graduating people out of poverty or addressing the shortage of workers in construction.

Bernie is talking about money and taking it from someone to give it to someone else with the intention of people benefiting.

Bernie could have said plumbers, electricians, HVAC installers, carpenters and even welders have great salaries and valuable training programs where you make money while you are training.

How common is it for someone to say, do you know a good roofer, or someone that does quality work on a remodel, or someone that can wire a house properly?

It is almost a given that infrastructure builders have low quality work, unless you pay triple the standard rate.

Bernie isn't solving problems Americans have.

Bernie is solving a cash flow problem in public colleges, where quantity matters more than quality. Public colleges do admit students, they admit so many they can afford to flunk out half of their admissions group. Any other business that takes on clients for a partial job would go out of business.
NO....he is doing nothing more than trying to buy votes by making promises that are not only unsound but ones that he cannot and will never deliver. And he knows it! Don't be duped...wake up!

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06-25-2019, 07:44 AM

I kick myself each time I respond to you, but here I go again.

How did you pay for your college?

Colleges have a cash flow problem because they don't know how to manage cash. People have college debt they can't pay back because they were too stupid to figure out that what they were borrowing for wouldn't support them paying it back.


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Bernie isn't talking about making people employable, graduating people out of poverty or addressing the shortage of workers in construction.

Bernie is talking about money and taking it from someone to give it to someone else with the intention of people benefiting.

Bernie could have said plumbers, electricians, HVAC installers, carpenters and even welders have great salaries and valuable training programs where you make money while you are training.

How common is it for someone to say, do you know a good roofer, or someone that does quality work on a remodel, or someone that can wire a house properly?

It is almost a given that infrastructure builders have low quality work, unless you pay triple the standard rate.

Bernie isn't solving problems Americans have.

Bernie is solving a cash flow problem in public colleges, where quantity matters more than quality. Public colleges do admit students, they admit so many they can afford to flunk out half of their admissions group. Any other business that takes on clients for a partial job would go out of business.
  
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