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scoring 14:1 - 05-28-2008, 11:59 PM

Anyone have an easy method for keeping score?When there is not a long string available and the dials on the GC wont turn easily its a pain to keep score.Tonight i played with a buddy of mine and we used a laptop with a spreadsheet he created,this works ok but not ideal.

Also does anyone play 14:1 with ball in hand for fouls?I know its not in the rules but its an interesting idea.
  
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05-29-2008, 12:24 AM

Hi, everyone, I'm new to this board, but thought I'd give it a go:
If you got a scoreboard use it to add on the 14 balls you rack after each breakshot, and, after a miss, subtract the number of balls still on the table; this should give you the number of balls you made in your run.
  
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scoreboard - 05-29-2008, 12:31 AM

what sort of scoreboard?
  
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05-29-2008, 12:49 AM

We use a dry eraseboard. Me and my brother put his on his wall so we dont have to even sit down and just mark as they make balls. Its a cheap, easy way to keep score IMO.

And no, we dont play ball in hand fouls.


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05-29-2008, 01:07 AM

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what sort of scoreboard?
One like this:
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ty - 05-29-2008, 02:42 AM

good info.
  
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05-29-2008, 03:46 AM

Ok, here is the type of score sheet we use here in Japan. It may sound complicated at first but it's really extremely simple to use. See photo with explanation below it.



Ok, Jim breaks (B) and fouls so we write -2 in his bottom box. The bottom box is the total score and the top box is number of balls made. Both players have one top and one bottom box.

Dave shoots and makes 8 balls so we put 8 in his top block for how many balls he made, 8 in his bottom block for his total number of balls and then we write -8 underneath to show that there are 8 balls missing from the table.

Jim gets up and makes 5 balls so we write 5 in his top block to show that he made 5 balls and then 3 in his bottom block to show his total score (-2 + 5 = 3). Then underneath we write -13 to show that 13 balls are off the table. Also, you'll notice that it was -8 and then -13 which shows that 5 more balls had been taken off the table.

Dave gets up and makes the last ball so underneath we write +14 to show that 14 balls are being added to the table. Dave breaks and then runs 7 balls. Counting the 1 ball from the previous rack plus the 7 he just ran we write 8 in his top box to show the number of balls he ran and then 16 in his bottom box to show his total score.

Jim runs out the remaining 7 balls so we put +14 again to show that 14 balls are added to the table. Then, Jim breaks and misses the break ball so we put an X next to it to show that the run was stopped there. Jim gets 7 more balls in his top box, add that to the 3 from the previous frame and you have 10.

Dave hops up and misses so we put a line to show that he made nothing.

Jim gets up and runs 2 full racks and after each rack we write +14 to show that 14 balls were added to the table again. As you can see we have +14 twice, that shows that Jim ran 2 racks then there is an X to show that he missed the break ball and his run stopped there. Put 28 in his top box and add that to the bottom of the previous frame for a total of 38.

And so on and so forth. I know it sounds difficult but it's really pretty elementary and if you saw it done once you'd be like "Ahh, I gotcha!"

The important thing though is to keep track of those minus balls below the graph. That number plus the balls on the table will always add up to 15. So, if there are 3 balls on the table the number under the score table would be -12. The minus signifies that 12 balls are off the table.

I have this in MS Word format if anyone would like a copy drop me a PM with your e-mail addy and I can send it on to you.
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05-29-2008, 07:28 AM

Here ya go, you know how top keep score, right? You have a running total and a rack score. On a foul, you subtract one from your running total.

http://www.playpool.com/anonftp/pub/...htscoresht.pdf

You can print these on any printer at 8 1/2 x 11 sheet size or you can do what I did and invest in some 8 1/2 x 14 paper. Makes it easier to read/write on.


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ty - 06-02-2008, 01:41 PM

Yes i know how to keep score.

I think using the laptop works pretty well.
  
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06-02-2008, 02:04 PM

I use a similar paper scoring method in my 14.1 league, but can be used on any scrap of paper. It is very simple to use, and I have a small 3" by 5" sprial notebook I keep in my case for this purpose.

Basically, we have three columns for each player.



text from the scoresheet to go along with the example:

You can use this chart to keep score if there are no beads or counters available. Just record how many balls after you finish shooting. Easiest way to keep score mid-rack in 14.1 is to add up the balls left in play on the table (including any that have been spotted), add how many balls have been already scored by both players in this rack (can track using beads by separating each rack, or on counters using one side for running total and other side for rack total) and subtract from 15. You keep a running total of the score in the score column. If you run out of room, just use the backside. A ?plus? sign can be used to indicate the end of the rack to better record high runs that span beyond one rack. Use a ?0? if you miss the break shot to indicate the end of the run. In the below example Player 1?s high run would be 12, while Player 2?s is 6.


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06-02-2008, 05:12 PM

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Yes i know how to keep score.

I think using the laptop works pretty well.
Here you go...

http://www.caromsoft.com/BSS.html


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07-15-2008, 11:39 PM

I wrote a simple program to keep score. Then one day I got bored and added statistics to it, it shows highest run, lowest run and average run. I need to finish it up. It does a great job keeping score. I just keep it up on my laptop.
  
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Also does anyone play 14:1 with ball in hand for fouls?I know its not in the rules but its an interesting idea.
I can't help myself for asking, but why in the world would you want to do that? It's one of the most strategic parts of the game.

I think it would be a travesty to reduce the intricacy and depth 14.1 offers.
  
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