What's Going On With Custom Cue Prices?
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They play a game where a rack has at least 38-strokes.
Not enough shots per rack.
Who said anything about artistry??.... you said quality. That's all I argued.
The only thing I'm full of is more knowledge than you about cues...
Once again no substance....
Here is a cue Bob Manzino built for me that I designed and supplied the dxf's... Next thing you'll say is since I designed the cue it's not a Manzino..lol
I would list Manzino as one of the cuemakers that hold their value but this does not look like a manzino.
This has a combination of styles that dont naturally fit together. This is of course just an opinion and i am sure you think differently. For such a unique cue design dont expect to recoup your investment if you ever wanted to sell.
My major point was about the crucial difference in understanding what is really important for the sport to grow. Barry Hearn and the team know their job very good understanding that the major product is a game as a show for the audience. They just do their best so the quality of this show getting better knowing where the real money coming from and what really motivates the players so their game - the final product improves. I guess the players also understand very good on what they should concenrate their efforts. It seems they are going in the right direction.
I'm glad there will be more pool events organized by Matchroom. That is much more important for our loved sport than... ok this thread is not about it).
We all have an opinion. Thats fine.. As far as "recouping" my investment, how do you know how much I paid??
Call Bob and ask him about the cue "Gus 2000"... Then ask him about me.
Something tells me you wont call him....
I dont, so i will add that my statement was meant as a generality about unusual designs.
Edit. Just read your bio and i see you have some great cuemaking contacts. Nice work on the josey cues.
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Thank you. Keith Josey builds one helluva cue.. As for my Manzino, I'm not worried about the cue being so non Manzino-esque. Bob really enjoyed doing this project with me. The fact that we are freinds made it even more enjoyable for myself also. He started out building traditional style cues so he was very excited to go back to his roots and build this design for me. It really came out just how it was designed. His execution is a perfect testament to Bob's abilities.
Edit: (The cue was designed in 97'. Below are my 2005 pre-build mockups that I rendered and were sent to Bob 2015 when we started the project)
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Skins, I think Mr. Manzino did a fantastic job of making those design elements work together. He combined design elements from a few eras, added plenty of exquisite detail to keep you admiring the cue (but didn't go overboard), and incorporated beautifully rendered modern touches within an overall maple-ebony design that's quite classical and clean. He hit it out of the park with that cue, and the market is indeed in trouble if a cue like that doesn't have a strong resale value.
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Thanks for the good words. The fact that you think so highly of it and thinking it was Bob's idea's and vision that brought this cue to life, even make me that much more special since I had designed every aspect of this cue years before asking him if he would build it, except for the shaft ringwork which I designed during the build... "Gus 2000".. My take on what might have come out of Gus's shop if he'd have lived to the 21st century. Fancy Cameo's with 6 piece Skeleton Props and "Geyser Bells"....
As for Bob, though the cue may not be his "brain child", build wise as he put it, it was trickier than you think. It's a sleeper :wink:
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Thank you. Keith Josey builds one helluva cue.. As for my Manzino, I'm not worried about the cue being so non Manzino-esque. Bob really enjoyed doing this project with me. The fact that we are freinds made it even more enjoyable for myself also. He started out building traditional style cues so he was very excited to go back to his roots and build this design for me. It really came out just how it was designed. His execution is a perfect testament to Bob's abilities.
Edit: (The cue was designed in 97'. Below are my 2005 pre-build mockups that I rendered and were sent to Bob 2015 when we started the project)
That's a beautiful cue, I really like the design a lot.
Also, have always enjoyed your posts Skins, you definitely enrich this place.
Mike, enjoyed reading your perspective as well, I don't know enough about cues to give more credibility to Skins or your posts, but from a layman I appreciated reading the discourse and opinions.
Well if anything, you sure know how to make tasteful lemonade out of bitter lemons. You're one good hearted person.
And, there you have it .... My Cue Junky Friends.
Uh... yeah right...C"rack"........ :wink:
Luxury Watches also went Krazy 
I gave into my addiction for High-End Cues in the mid-90’s (when I joined eBay, circa 1995), and snagged a very nice selection of desirable Cues. I had already gotten myself “hooked” on Luxury Watches I was picking up on Watchnet.com at wholesale prices. Now, just like Top Tier Cues, those Wonderful Timepieces are priced out of my Comfort Zone. My 3rd Addiction is High-End Film Camera and, since Digital has crushed that mode of Photography, I can still buy Beautiful Equipment at Goodwill prices.
All of that aside, I say “Go ahead and buy that Magnificent Cue you’ve always wanted, and be damned with the cost. Enjoy the fruits of your labor Now, while you are Healthy. Don’t wait until It’s Too Late to employ the Beauty and Perfection of a Fine Cue”.
I gave into my addiction for High-End Cues in the mid-90’s (when I joined eBay, circa 1995), and snagged a very nice selection of desirable Cues. I had already gotten myself “hooked” on Luxury Watches I was picking up on Watchnet.com at wholesale prices. Now, just like Top Tier Cues, those Wonderful Timepieces are priced out of my Comfort Zone. My 3rd Addiction is High-End Film Camera and, since Digital has crushed that mode of Photography, I can still buy Beautiful Equipment at Goodwill prices.
All of that aside, I say “Go ahead and buy that Magnificent Cue you’ve always wanted, and be damned with the cost. Enjoy the fruits of your labor Now, while you are Healthy. Don’t wait until It’s Too Late to employ the Beauty and Perfection of a Fine Cue”.
Best post on this thread.
I buy my dream cue and come out a winner.
Play with it and be proud of it.
When somebody offers then ....
This thread is interesting reading. Just my opinion but the game and cue collecting are two different things. I play snooker, Russian occasionally. I play with cues that feel good to me. I just did something that I thought I would never do. I bought a production cue online from China. $132(US) all in and that included a case and two extensions, the long one of the telescoping variety. It's a nice playing cue. 3/4 cut, ash. If you're just a player and want to check it out try Woods Cues (www.woodscues.com).
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If you like the looks or the feel, buy it. It is not like you can go on line and find a classic, or one that feels good.
Then YOU have it and you can charge whatever you want.
Then YOU have it and you can charge whatever you want.
Point taken about online buying. I should have added that one of the guys I play with had two of their cues that he bought recently. I was impressed with the quality and feel. Ordered miine slightly heavier than his (20 vs 18 oz) and it was as expected. So I had a preview of the product.