> It's probably been a couple years since I played any 14.1,but the last time I played on the 8 footers here in town,I had a 45 right out of the box,then 5 consecutive 20-somethings. Compared to some,this is insignifigant. To me,I was pleased that I was hitting the balls halfway decent and recognizing the patterns which are much more subtle than in rotation games. Tommy D.