Design Your Dream

Bigd3

BIGGER in Texas
Silver Member
Design your Dream Cue

I thought for sure when I saw XPATCAN1 entry that was a for sure winner, that cue is insane and didn't make it ? I had a top five all picked out including mine of course and not one of these cues is still in the running ? Bill is the expert so I guess he knows whats in. I'm just ready to vote.
 

xpatcan1

xpatcanuck@hotmail.com
Silver Member
I thought for sure when I saw XPATCAN1 entry that was a for sure winner, that cue is insane and didn't make it ? I had a top five all picked out including mine of course and not one of these cues is still in the running ? Bill is the expert so I guess he knows whats in. I'm just ready to vote.

I think that cue i going to remain a dream for me for a long time, lol...

i am not really surprised it didn't make the cut, the cost in materials is insanely high, just imagine going thru the build and having the 12" piece of ivory in the forearm crack.... :yikes:

i would be interested in seeing your top 5,, send me a PM...

Justin
 

bstroud

Deceased
Next Cut

Here is the next list of survivors.

Just so all of you can see what I am going through in trying to make such difficult choices, I am adding some notes to each design.
It was not my intention to design the cues myself only make detail changes that would be necessary to actually produce a cue.

So here is the current list in no particular order.

ace911 C&C DYD page 2

Very Traditional design with fine detail and beautiful veneers and inlays.

What I would change:

Nothing.

mhaimi MF DYD page 4

A well thought out and well balanced modern take on a traditional
base. Very interesting points and ring work.

What I would change:

Not much. Would need to see the points in more detail.

underclocked C&C DYD page 3

Great take on a traditional background. Design elements not seen
in a cue before. Well balanced and great contrast.

What I would change:

The floating points need to be redesigned a little. Perhaps turned
upside down.


chrisl1802 C&C DYD page 6

A modern fantasy design. Well balanced and organic. Wonderful
combination of material and colors. Not sure how the 3D effect of the
points would look in reality.

What I would change:

Some of the fine lines would need to be thicker.

jenduane C&C DYD page 6

Excellent Traditional design with a historical feel. Well balanced and
researched. Lots of interesting details.

What I would change:

Not much. The wrap looks a little tricky. Would add some silver to
reflect on the Sword theme.

Mcbisi C&C DYD page 9

Nice modern organic design with a traditional feel. The ring work is
very interesting and works well with the overall design.

What I would change:

The design might work better as a 3 point in order to fit all the detail in.


Dagwoodz MF DYD page 8

Traditional design with a twist. Very personal due to the selection of
materials yet universal in appeal. Who can't imagine the desert
mountains of Afghanistan with the sun turning them a rainbow of
colors. Who doesn't look up at the night sky and see the Universe
staring down at them.

What I would change:

The inlay at the end of the short points. Would leave everything else
alone.


Kickin' Chicken MF DYD page 16


Certainly a wild card design. Humor and fantasy all in one.

What I would change:

The dominos would need to be reduced in number to fit on a cue. Some
of the linking artwork would need to be clarified.



peter_gunn MF DYD page 17

A beautiful and elegant design. Very modern and completely new.

What I would change:

Because the cue would need to be shipped abroad, I would need t
use white stabilized Holly for the feathers. The feathers would also
need some connection. Silver veins perhaps.
 

jenduane

jenduane
Hello Bill.
I appreciate your input on my design and totaly agree with your changes.
prehaps adding some silver veneers?
the wrap will be tricky. I wanted the wrap to be traditional desing to a real Katana but it is more impotant to me be totaly functional playing cue I toyed with the idea of using imbosed leather or actualy making the handle wrapless ebony with inlayd ivory dimonds and mabey adding silver vaneers around the edges of the dimonds simulating the look of a wrap that would certanly look spectacular.

thanks you so much for your intrest in my design

Jenduane
 

chrisl1802

Registered
Here the last 9 with pics.

Here is the next list of survivors.

Just so all of you can see what I am going through in trying to make such difficult choices, I am adding some notes to each design.
It was not my intention to design the cues myself only make detail changes that would be necessary to actually produce a cue.

So here is the current list in no particular order.

ace911 C&C DYD page 2

Very Traditional design with fine detail and beautiful veneers and inlays.

What I would change:

Nothing.

ACE911.jpg


mhaimi MF DYD page 4

A well thought out and well balanced modern take on a traditional
base. Very interesting points and ring work.

What I would change:

Not much. Would need to see the points in more detail.

Mhaimi%202010.11.22.2107.23.jpg



underclocked C&C DYD page 3

Great take on a traditional background. Design elements not seen
in a cue before. Well balanced and great contrast.

What I would change:

The floating points need to be redesigned a little. Perhaps turned
upside down.

underclocked.jpg



chrisl1802 C&C DYD page 6

A modern fantasy design. Well balanced and organic. Wonderful
combination of material and colors. Not sure how the 3D effect of the
points would look in reality.

What I would change:

Some of the fine lines would need to be thicker.

chrisl1802.jpg



jenduane C&C DYD page 6

Excellent Traditional design with a historical feel. Well balanced and
researched. Lots of interesting details.

What I would change:

Not much. The wrap looks a little tricky. Would add some silver to
reflect on the Sword theme.

jenduane.jpg


Mcbisi C&C DYD page 9

Nice modern organic design with a traditional feel. The ring work is
very interesting and works well with the overall design.

What I would change:

The design might work better as a 3 point in order to fit all the detail in.

mcbisi.jpg


Dagwoodz MF DYD page 8

Traditional design with a twist. Very personal due to the selection of
materials yet universal in appeal. Who can't imagine the desert
mountains of Afghanistan with the sun turning them a rainbow of
colors. Who doesn't look up at the night sky and see the Universe
staring down at them.

What I would change:

The inlay at the end of the short points. Would leave everything else
alone.

Dagwoodz.jpg



Kickin' Chicken MF DYD page 16


Certainly a wild card design. Humor and fantasy all in one.

What I would change:

The dominos would need to be reduced in number to fit on a cue. Some
of the linking artwork would need to be clarified.

kickinChicken.jpg




peter_gunn MF DYD page 17

A beautiful and elegant design. Very modern and completely new.

What I would change:

Because the cue would need to be shipped abroad, I would need t
use white stabilized Holly for the feathers. The feathers would also
need some connection. Silver veins perhaps.

peter_gunn.jpg


 

Worminator

AzB Gold Member
Gold Member
Silver Member
Congrats to the finalists... some very interesting designs are in the running... good luck!!! Someone is going to end up with a spectacular cue.

Question for Bill for when the judging starts:

Some design elements of the finalist's cues have been photoshopped using other cuemaker's designs. I personally do not believe that would constitute an original design or be a positive attribute for the final cue you build. What is your perspective on this issue?

I'm not saying those contestant's cues should be eliminated, but merely suggesting a modification to the design elements to make it purely a JW cue.

This is a great contest and gesture Bill. Hopefully you can post progress pics for all to see when the final design building starts. That would be the icing on the cake IMO.
 

bstroud

Deceased
Congrats to the finalists... some very interesting designs are in the running... good luck!!! Someone is going to end up with a spectacular cue.

Question for Bill for when the judging starts:

Some design elements of the finalist's cues have been photoshopped using other cuemaker's designs. I personally do not believe that would constitute an original design or be a positive attribute for the final cue you build. What is your perspective on this issue?

I'm not saying those contestant's cues should be eliminated, but merely suggesting a modification to the design elements to make it purely a JW cue.

This is a great contest and gesture Bill. Hopefully you can post progress pics for all to see when the final design building starts. That would be the icing on the cake IMO.

Jamie,

I agree with you 100%.
I have no idea where some of the images you are describing come from but would appreciate any info.

We have some great original designs and the winner should be one of those.
Anyone that has presented a design "borrowed" from someone else should withdraw it ASAP.

Bill Stroud
 

Mcbisi

New member
Chrisl1802,
thanks for your comment, I tried to design a never seen, traditional cue with new forms, nothing copied or seen anywhere.
thanks a lot.

Worminator,
your reckoning, is right :)

Bill,
you are right, 3 pointer is better, overfilling is not the best way.

regards,
bisi
 

xpatcan1

xpatcanuck@hotmail.com
Silver Member
i thought this contest was about your DREAM DESIGN not who's is more original.....:rolleyes:

it seems to me like the criteria changed part way....
 

jenduane

jenduane
Greeting evryone.
my dream cue design is one that I have been thinking about for a long time.
I have always had an interest in Musashi and the 5 rings and the ancient art of sword making.
and to be able to combine the two Ideas of cue making and sword making in a unque cue design. I tried my best not to copy anyones work but still stick to a traditional concept , and come up with some uniqe shapes and designs. to the best of my knowlege no one has ever built a cue like this. at least I have never seen it done before.

good luck to evryone in the contest there are truely some uniqe and great designs


thanks Jenduane
 
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Ken_4fun

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I like several of the designs.

Good job guys!

I wish everyone the best of luck....My only input would be try to select a design that is "Josswestish"

When I am playing with a Josswest, everyone can identify it from across the room.

Big Josswest fan here.

Ken
 

Hierovision

Dios mio, man.
Silver Member
Worminator covered this earlier, but I'm reposting this from the other thread to "cover all bases" so to speak. If the design somehow gets into the final five, I would like to make sure everyone is voting with all the knowledge applicable.

2b.jpg

+
M-stacey-3.jpg

+ modified Zinzola rings and some gentle photoshopping for the butt windows
=
ACE911.jpg


While it may be his dream cue design, it's clearly borrowed from other readily-available designs. Use this information as you see fit for the situation.

Thank you for this contest Mr. Stroud. I know a truly original design will win, but I don't want to risk this one sneaking through :)
 

Worminator

AzB Gold Member
Gold Member
Silver Member
i thought this contest was about your DREAM DESIGN not who's is more original.....:rolleyes:

it seems to me like the criteria changed part way....


I think you may have overlooked some important information. And just to clarify, The contest is "Design Your Dream", not your DREAM DESIGN. The name itself infers originality.

We need more original designs. I know it's hard. I struggle with it every night.

I am going to pick designs based on originality. Modern or traditional. It doesn't matter. What matters is that the designer sees and presents something that makes people think "Why didn't I think of that" or "What a clever idea" or " how beautiful".
 

mrinsatiable

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Great idea..unfortunately Marcus Dienst of Arthur cues of Germany has already created a wonderful pool cue built in 2009.

here's a picture of the cue:

031J2.jpg


031J4.jpg




Hello Bill thank you for the generous offer here is my dream cue
To the best of my knowledge this concept has never bin done before
It Is Time..
Please accept my entry into your contest
Best regards
Duane
 

xpatcan1

xpatcanuck@hotmail.com
Silver Member
I think you may have overlooked some important information. And just to clarify, The contest is "Design Your Dream", not your DREAM DESIGN. The name itself infers originality.


i think that title can be taken in many different ways... maybe the contest it should have been "design an original cue"? i see that bill asked for more original ideas in later posts but that is not what i get form reading the title...

the title is "design your dream" if someones dream cue is just a 4 point 4 veneer classic style cue then who are we to say its not right for this competition when it fits the criteria of the title...


(to everyone) Ace911's cue is not a copy of any of the cues mentioned above, he asked me to render this design for him months ago, it went through many different stages until it reached the finished drawing you all see, its amazing how people think 8 points with flame veneers is a copy of anyones cue... the inlay pattern can be seen on hundreds of cues and is no way original on the cues mentioned...
(so he designed his dream)<------- what did he get wrong???
 

Bigd3

BIGGER in Texas
Silver Member
Dream Cue ! ! !

If I knew this contest was ALL ABOUT originality I could have come up with some crazy stuff on a cue, I wouldn't of liked the cue or wouldn't of even wanted it for that matter. That's why I did a classic with my own twist tuxedo gambler. Its was Design "YOUR" Dream Cue, and I don't think anyone's design should be tossed out because it has some similar points or ringwork as another cue out their. Just my thoughts and ready to vote.
 
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