Cognoscenti Thread Tap 7/16x11

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Poolfiend

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I'm looking for someone that can change the threads on a couple carbon fiber shafts from radial to 7/16x11.

I know this can be done by live threading the shaft using the pin that is in the butt of the cue. Is this the preferred method or is using a tap better?

Anyone have a tap for the old Cog pin?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this.
 
Kim Bye

Kim Bye

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Poolfiend said:
I'm looking for someone that can change the threads on a couple carbon fiber shafts from radial to 7/16x11.

I know this can be done by live threading the shaft using the pin that is in the butt of the cue. Is this the preferred method or is using a tap better?

Anyone have a tap for the old Cog pin?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this.
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I think you don`t understand what live threading is.
Live threading does not involve the pin that`s in your cue. Live threading is done with a single pitch threadmill of the apropriate size, held in a router and mounted to the tool post. You use the threading capabilities of the lathe and select the right pitch, then feed in (or out) and cut the threads. Done right, this method is very precise and creates very crisp threads with no tearout.
Having said that, a 7/16-11 tap can easily be ordered online.
 
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Michael Webb

Michael Webb

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Poolfiend said:
I'm looking for someone that can change the threads on a couple carbon fiber shafts from radial to 7/16x11.

I know this can be done by live threading the shaft using the pin that is in the butt of the cue. Is this the preferred method or is using a tap better?

Anyone have a tap for the old Cog pin?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this.
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Hi poolfiend
Have you tried asking Mr. Gold??
 
Michael Webb

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Kim Bye said:
I think you don`t understand what live threading is.
Live threading does not involve the pin that`s in your cue. Live threading is done with a single pitch threadmill of the apropriate size, held in a router and mounted to the tool post. You use the threading capabilities of the lathe and select the right pitch, then feed in (or out) and cut the threads. Done right, this method is very precise and creates very crisp threads with no tearout.
Having said that, a 7/16-11 tap can easily be ordered online.
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Hi Kim
Have you tried that tap that's offered? Cognoscenti joint screws are not 7/16 (.437) x11. They're not even close. Just curious how good the fit is? Proper fit or Hula dance wiggle?? Revo shafts are also .842. Cognoscenti is a little larger but people tend to live with that.

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Kim Bye

Kim Bye

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Michael Webb said:
Hi Kim
Have you tried that tap that's offered? Cognoscenti joint screws are not 7/16 (.437) x11. They're not even close. Just curious how good the fit is? Proper fit or Hula dance wiggle?? Revo shafts are also .842. Cognoscenti is a little larger but people tend to live with that.

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That looks nothing like the 7/16-11 tap. Is that pin ACME thread?
 
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CueCaps

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For Information Only

Hello. :smile:
Disclaimer:
I am not a Cue Maker.. :embarrassed2:

I used to make JPs for Joe Gold.
I can not let out my Tools.
Especially Cutting Tools. ;)
Rules from Past experiences.
No disrespect to anyone. (the other guys ruined it for all of you).

7/16" Modified Major
P.D. = .381"
"Tap Drill" size R = .339"
Tap Outside/Major Diameter = .410"
Joint Screw Outside Diameter = .400"
Those are Genuine Joe Gold Joint Screws :wink:

Joe was always good to me.
"Heart of Gold" ;)
There's a lot of me out there, on COGNOCENTi Cues.

Guys, when you ask people to help you, tell us your name.
Who wants to help people who want to be "anonymous"? :confused:


Alton < used to make JP's for many Cuemakers. :)
 

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Kim Bye

Kim Bye

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CueCaps said:
Hello. :smile:
Disclaimer:
I am not a Cue Maker.. :embarrassed2:

I used to make JPs for Joe Gold.
I can not let out my Tools.
Especially Cutting Tools. ;)
Rules from Past experiences.
No disrespect to anyone. (the other guys ruined it for all of you).

7/16" Modified Major
P.D. = .381"
"Tap Drill" size R = .339"
Tap Outside/Major Diameter = .410"
Joint Screw Outside Diameter = .400"
Those are Genuine Joe Gold Joint Screws :wink:

Joe was always good to me.
"Heart of Gold" ;)
There's a lot of me out there, on COGNOCENTi Cues.

Guys, when you ask people to help you, tell us your name.
Who wants to help people who want to be "anonymous"? :confused:


Alton < used to make JP's for many Cuemakers. :)
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Great info Alton :cool:
 
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CueCaps

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Thanks

Thanks Kim..
:)

To the message above:
That's not his specs..

Stop it..
Pick on someone else . You think we all stupid.
I leave you alone , you leave me alone. O.K .



 
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Poolfiend

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Well this has been educational. Even after reading the description I am still having a hard time visualizing the live threading process, but it's definitely not what I was thinking.

Anyway, thank you to everyone for all the information.

Kevin
 
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giddyup

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CueCaps said:
For Information Only

Hello. 😄
Disclaimer:
I am not a Cue Maker.. :embarrassed2:

I used to make JPs for Joe Gold.
I can not let out my Tools.
Especially Cutting Tools. ;)
Rules from Past experiences.
No disrespect to anyone. (the other guys ruined it for all of you).

7/16" Modified Major
P.D. = .381"
"Tap Drill" size R = .339"
Tap Outside/Major Diameter = .410"
Joint Screw Outside Diameter = .400"
Those are Genuine Joe Gold Joint Screws 😉

Joe was always good to me.
"Heart of Gold" ;)
There's a lot of me out there, on COGNOCENTi Cues.

Guys, when you ask people to help you, tell us your name.
Who wants to help people who want to be "anonymous"? :confused:


Alton < used to make JP's for many Cuemakers. :)
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Great info, which can't be found anywhere! Do you happen to know what the butt bumper thread size is? Thanks.
 
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Quesports

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I am NOT NOT a cue maker.. But I DO know Joepretty darn well. He told me himself that Alton made cue caps for him in the past.. SO I would tend to agree with his statements about the pin size Joe uses...

Hey Joe, if you see this I still got that old Kikel.... Be well, hope things are you going well for you in Chitown! Sorry about the loss of your old comrade in arms. Rip Bill!
 
trueblu8

trueblu8

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CueCaps said:
For Information Only

Hello. 😄
Disclaimer:
I am not a Cue Maker.. :embarrassed2:

I used to make JPs for Joe Gold.
I can not let out my Tools.
Especially Cutting Tools. ;)
Rules from Past experiences.
No disrespect to anyone. (the other guys ruined it for all of you).

7/16" Modified Major
P.D. = .381"
"Tap Drill" size R = .339"
Tap Outside/Major Diameter = .410"
Joint Screw Outside Diameter = .400"
Those are Genuine Joe Gold Joint Screws 😉

Joe was always good to me.
"Heart of Gold" ;)
There's a lot of me out there, on COGNOCENTi Cues.

Guys, when you ask people to help you, tell us your name.
Who wants to help people who want to be "anonymous"? :confused:


Alton < used to make JP's for many Cuemakers. :)
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Alton,

Would you be able to tap a carbon fiber shaft for a Cognoscenti cue for me? Sorry, I would have messaged you, but I didn't see the option.

Vince
 
Sheldon

Sheldon

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Any competent cuemaker with live threading capabilities and the pin specs will be able to do this in less than half an hour. It's an easy job, don't get gouged on the price.
 
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