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One for Jay Helfert... - 05-11-2020, 12:03 AM

Jay, weren't you around Modesto when Kim Davenport played?

Just finished watching this thriller between Kim and a young Johnny Archer. Had to be slower cloth than used today. The different equipment sure didn't lessen the drama of this one. Glad I found it..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eunx...n&index=7&t=0s
  
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05-11-2020, 05:53 AM

Thanks - great match- probably not the cloth but the rails that made it look slower. Diamond tables/ rails are more lively than what you see here in this video.
  
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05-11-2020, 07:34 AM

Kim was a great player, player of the year in 1990 I believe. He won his share of tournaments and was definitely top ten on the pro tour in his prime. He was partners in a poolroom (Boulevard Billiards) in Modesto for many years until moving to Georgia to partner up with none other than Johnny Archer in their poolroom there. This was after his career ending eye injury about fifteen years ago.

Last I heard he was back in Modesto with his lovely wife Aida, enjoying his senior years playing golf and taking life easy.


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05-11-2020, 07:58 AM

There is a poorly placed Simonis banner displayed. It can be seen briefly at about 5:35. I didn’t notice other cloth manufacturers’ banners. The year was ‘95. Simonis seems like a good guess.
  
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05-11-2020, 08:44 AM

This is one of my favorite YouTube matches of all of them. I like the way they converse back-and-forth with one another, albeit briefly, as they play.

I wish the players weren't such stone-faced robots like they are today.

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05-11-2020, 09:31 AM

It also caused me to think maybe winner break with longer races is a good format...

Gee, they played pretty good with that old equipment... Cues don't have LD shafts?

Sorry to hear Kim suffered an eye injury...

Weird aside on Modesto...I was born there back in..'43. Don't remember much about it. Moved to Oregon when I was 4...

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05-11-2020, 09:47 AM

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Kim was a great player, player of the year in 1990 I believe. He won his share of tournaments and was definitely top ten on the pro tour in his prime. He was partners in a poolroom (Boulevard Billiards) in Modesto for many years until moving to Georgia to partner up with none other than Johnny Archer in their poolroom there. This was after his career ending eye injury about fifteen years ago.

Last I heard he was back in Modesto with his lovely wife Aida, enjoying his senior years playing golf and taking life easy.
Nevermind, found the story. Freak accident/

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This is one of my favorite YouTube matches of all of them. I like the way they converse back-and-forth with one another, albeit briefly, as they play.

I wish the players weren't such stone-faced robots like they are today.

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I also agree with this while the precision of the players today may be advanced their cold stone face personalities take a lot away from a match.
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What happened?

To the best of my memory, Kimmer was practicing at a local driving range. A lawn mower caught a golf ball and spat it out into his eye. He has had multiple surgeries but was not able to regain full vision. The freakest accident I have ever heard of.


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Jay, weren't you around Modesto when Kim Davenport played?

Just finished watching this thriller between Kim and a young Johnny Archer. Had to be slower cloth than used today. The different equipment sure didn't lessen the drama of this one. Glad I found it..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eunx...n&index=7&t=0s
I lived there then and played out of Modesto from 85-89. The slow cloth was there until 88ish I’d guess. Sacramento got it first, was a few months before Barry put on the tables in Ferroni’s

(I didn’t look at the link yet)


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Makes - 05-11-2020, 11:09 AM

This match make me a absolute fan of winner breaks, what a great match this was. I'm pretty sure that was Kim's Sazamboti that he was paying with also.
  
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I lived there then and played out of Modesto from 85-89. The slow cloth was there until 88ish I’d guess. Sacramento got it first, was a few months before Barry put on the tables in Ferroni’s

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I lived in Modesto from ‘82-‘86 and was at Ferroni‘s most nights. We must have run across each other. Great pool hall.
  
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This match make me a absolute fan of winner breaks, what a great match this was. I'm pretty sure that was Kim's Sazamboti that he was paying with also.
If he played with a Szamboti then that was it- a players cue style- no inlays from what I can see. I was looking at the cue in this match and the first thing i thought was a Szamboti four pointer.
  
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05-11-2020, 12:38 PM

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Kim was a great player, player of the year in 1990 I believe.
Last I heard he was back in Modesto with his lovely wife Aida, enjoying his senior years playing golf and taking life easy.
Someone told me last year he had opened an auto dealership in South Bend, Indiana (?).
Also heard of a new poolroom with pro equipment there, and wondered if he was associated with it? I WAS going to go there and track it down before the pandemic struck.
  
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