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the best in the country by walter s. tevis - 06-01-2020, 11:52 AM

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06-01-2020, 11:55 AM

Pfffft- better players are always in the city.


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Reminds me of a favorite line - 06-01-2020, 01:18 PM

Good story, I enjoyed it. I have never read Tevis, just watched the movies. Seems like I need to look up some books.

"The best in the country" made me think this favorite line of mine was gonna come into play. Back when I was gambling nightly I would sometimes step into a strange place and loudly proclaim, "I am the best in the country!" All heads would turn my way. Then I would try to look a little sheepish, "I forgot I am in the city now." Rarely took five minutes to get into action.

The good ol' days when times were rotten. Sure to miss the old days and the old Hu sometimes.

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06-02-2020, 07:49 AM

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Good story, I enjoyed it. I have never read Tevis, just watched the movies. Seems like I need to look up some books.

"The best in the country" made me think this favorite line of mine was gonna come into play. Back when I was gambling nightly I would sometimes step into a strange place and loudly proclaim, "I am the best in the country!" All heads would turn my way. Then I would try to look a little sheepish, "I forgot I am in the city now." Rarely took five minutes to get into action.

The good ol' days when times were rotten. Sure to miss the old days and the old Hu sometimes.

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His books are great reading. After you read The Hustler and The Color Of Money, you have to read The Man Who Fell To Earth!


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Pretty Sure I Did, Looonng Ago! - 06-02-2020, 08:26 AM

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His books are great reading. After you read The Hustler and The Color Of Money, you have to read The Man Who Fell To Earth!

Seems like I did read The Man Who Fell to Earth long ago. Didn't connect it to his pool books, didn't remember who wrote it even. Could be just a similar title but I will check it out.

Still have my library card I got for internet access while moving, I wonder if the local library still has the little librarian that liked to twist her butt? Maybe I need to go check out their backsi, err, um, back catalog!

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06-02-2020, 08:54 AM

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His books are great reading. After you read The Hustler and The Color Of Money, you have to read The Man Who Fell To Earth!
I enjoyed reading the book TCM a lot more then the movie. They are not even the same story. The only thing the same is the use of the names Fast Eddie and Fats. My guess is, the movie makers bought the rights to the book just for that so they could cast Newman then wrote their own story.
  
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06-02-2020, 12:28 PM

Hellofa short story..thanks for posting. A prequel to "The Hustler"?
  
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06-02-2020, 10:37 PM

Walter mentioned New York Fats in that story.
...gave Wanderone a little ammo?


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06-03-2020, 03:49 AM

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Walter mentioned New York Fats in that story.
...gave Wanderone a little ammo?
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Hellofa short story..thanks for posting. A prequel to "The Hustler"?
good one, right? glad you enjoyed and definitely a "hustler" barrel

to you and pt, we had related convo recently in this thread:
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showt...=512953&page=2

I'm digging around to see if walter did any other shorties
about fatty, or anything else "pool"-


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06-03-2020, 10:52 AM

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06-03-2020, 09:45 PM

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A long time ago I read an article by Walter Tevis in a billiard mag...maybe late 70s?
..it was about a 9-ball tournament in Florida that he just happened to drop in on.
I loved the article, he talked about the garish lighting ( that would’ve been that Brunswick,
recommended stuff from the 60s, bare neon tubes all over the ceiling), and how the voices
were too loud and shrill............then the play got serious...and it was like a golden haze
descended on the room for the rest of the contest,
When the last ball dropped, the magic was gone..the room was too bright and loud again.

That article described why I was fascinated about the game better than anything else
I had ever read.
I would sure like to read it again if anybody is good enough to find it....I haven’t been able to.


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A long time ago I read an article by Walter Tevis in a billiard mag...maybe late 70s?
..it was about a 9-ball tournament in Florida that he just happened to drop in on.
I loved the article, he talked about the garish lighting ( that would’ve been that Brunswick,
recommended stuff from the 60s, bare neon tubes all over the ceiling), and how the voices
were too loud and shrill............then the play got serious...and it was like a golden haze
descended on the room for the rest of the contest,
When the last ball dropped, the magic was gone..the room was too bright and loud again.

That article described why I was fascinated about the game better than anything else
I had ever read.
I would sure like to read it again if anybody is good enough to find it....I haven’t been able to.
pt, that article sounds like it's worth tracking down!
I'm game to join you on the hunt..
admittedly an amateur on the subject, I haven't heard of any pool-related writing by walter post 60's
is it possible someone else wrote it?
is there anything else about the article you can remember?
I'm even more an amateur re: billiard mags
but if it was in a billiard mag in the 70's, wouldn't that narrow it down pretty well?


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pt, that article sounds like it's worth tracking down!
I'm game to join you on the hunt..
admittedly an amateur on the subject, I haven't heard of any pool-related writing by walter post 60's
is it possible someone else wrote it?
is there anything else about the article you can remember?
I'm even more an amateur re: billiard mags
but if it was in a billiard mag in the 70's, wouldn't that narrow it down pretty well?
If you remember we started talking about this because I mentioned running into Tevis at a tournament in Tampa Florida. Back then there was not really any billiards publications other the "Chalk Up" and a very slick mag on the quality of "Look " mag called "National Bowlers journal and Billiard Review". Of course Tevis was a freelance writer and it could been in any mag.

I have seen reprints from NBJ&BR though on line. I would bet you can track down the article. The tournament I was referring to would have be at Bakers Billiards. in Tampa Fla.. It was quite a place even having a tournament room like The Jansco show bar. It even hosted Johnston city style tournament back then with mamy of the same players. If you can hunt down a copy of "The First five years of Chalk Up" you will find a ton of contemporary stuff from back then. You may find a copy on ebay, if you do buy it.
http://www.onepocket.org/ChalkUp.htm
Wow I just looked and there is one on ebay now.


You know, From reading your postings you would love, "The Bank Shot and other great Robberies" It should be part of any pool players collection. They are around on ebay, only buy the hard cover copy not the reprint

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06-04-2020, 12:43 PM

If you like pool stories you should find yourself a copy of "Byrne's Book of Great Pool Stories" by of course Robert Byrne.

It's 31 short stories and includes two by Tevis: "The Big Hustle" and "The Hustler" which he eventually fleshed out into the novel.

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If you remember we started talking about this because I mentioned running into Tevis at a tournament in Tampa Florida. Back then there was not really any billiards publications other the "Chalk Up" and a very slick mag on the quality of "Look " mag called "National Bowlers journal and Billiard Review". Of course Tevis was a freelance writer and it could been in any mag.

I have seen reprints from NBJ&BR though on line. I would bet you can track down the article. The tournament I was referring to would have be at Bakers Billiards. in Tampa Fla.. It was quite a place even having a tournament room like The Jansco show bar. It even hosted Johnston city style tournament back then with mamy of the same players. If you can hunt down a copy of "The First five years of Chalk Up" you will find a ton of contemporary stuff from back then. You may find a copy on ebay, if you do buy it.
http://www.onepocket.org/ChalkUp.htm
Wow I just looked and there is one on ebay now.


You know, From reading your postings you would love, "The Bank Shot and other great Robberies" It should be part of any pool players collection. They are around on ebay, only buy the hard cover copy not the reprint
whew, good stuff
pt, ring any bells?

I do enjoy a good yarn..pool-related in a bonus ^_^
have not read "bank shot"- on my list now, thanks for the 'tip!

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If you like pool stories you should find yourself a copy of "Byrne's Book of Great Pool Stories" by of course Robert Byrne.

It's 31 short stories and includes two by Tevis: "The Big Hustle" and "The Hustler" which he eventually fleshed out into the novel.

Lou Figueroa
lou, byrne's book is excellent- what a great comp. thanks for the reminder!


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ritual ground, a gunfighter's high noon, a refuge,
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