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Where are you looking when you pull the trigger?
The CB of course. What else would one look at. That OB aint going anywhere.

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03-25-2016, 11:14 AM

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The CB of course. What else would one look at. That OB aint going anywhere.

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It's obviously not going in the pocket
Not going to get into a long how and why I will just say the most accurate potters on the planet would not use your method and you are the one having an issue pocketing a ball at a relatively short distance so I will leave it up to you to decide if you want to improve your skills by doing it the proven way.
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03-25-2016, 11:34 AM

It doesn't matter which ball you're looking at last if you're twisting your grip hand. Check your knuckles before and after you stroke. Are they in the same place? They should be.
  
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03-25-2016, 06:09 PM

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you are the one having an issue pocketing a ball at a relatively short distance. by doing it the proven way.
Who said I am having an issue pocketing the short draw shot? You obviously didn't read the thread.

And that 2nd part, about the proven way, really made me laugh. I guess you haven't seen the countless threads on here about what to look at last huh?

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03-25-2016, 08:10 PM

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Who said I am having an issue pocketing the short draw shot? You obviously didn't read the thread.

And that 2nd part, about the proven way, really made me laugh. I guess you haven't seen the countless threads on here about what to look at last huh?

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Your shot on a 9ft table is relatively short and yes I have seen many silly threads on here, not sure what that has to do with anything.

If you really want to improve and learn to play with a high degree of accuracy there is a better way if you stop taking the advice of B players.
Here is an eye pattern with some variations as to how may warm up strokes you choose but the basics are CB-OB-CB-OB-CB-pull back pause-OB-follow through, as done by the best potters in the world and multi world champions some even throw in an extra look at the pocket somewhere but always rest on the OB last, this is is a proven method so why you would laugh at it I have no idea. Here is Nic Barrow explaining a couple of patterns https://youtu.be/8A9MVtEAIOQ

I'll bow out of your thread now but hey I am just stating some facts you can use it or do whatever but it really stumps me as to why American pool players are so dismissive and unwilling to change when it comes to learning sound proven fundamental techniques,


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03-25-2016, 08:21 PM

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On your 5C drill, I want to be sure I am seeing the diagram right. It looks like there is a slight angle and when you draw it back the CB will come back and to the right a little to get onto the paper.

Or is it just a straight back draw drill?

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On old cloth or with dirty balls that don't draw well, the shot is very hard when the object ball gets past 3 or 4 diamonds from the cue ball.


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It doesn't matter which ball you're looking at last if you're twisting your grip hand. Check your knuckles before and after you stroke. Are they in the same place? They should be.
I think a big issue for me is that I simply don't know if I am aiming straight/properly or not. I have no idea, when I address the CB, if I am aiming it straight at the OB. On shorter straight-in draw shots this isn't critical. On longer straight-in draw shots this is absolutely critical.

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I think a big issue for me is that I simply don't know if I am aiming straight/properly or not. I have no idea, when I address the CB, if I am aiming it straight at the OB. On shorter straight-in draw shots this isn't critical. On longer straight-in draw shots this is absolutely critical.

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It's a good idea to use a process of elimination when troubleshooting your game. Doing the test I recommended about checking your knuckles won't hurt anything. It will tell you if you're twisting or not. If you're not, then you can eliminate that as a possibility.
  
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Could the dominant eye issue be causing my problems here?

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Could the dominant eye issue be causing my problems here?

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04-08-2016, 03:38 AM

It is possible you are delivering off course. You may try to shorten your backswing and use more of a short stroke technique. Don't jerk or quick stroke, a shorter pull, pause, deliver smooth and let the follow through complete naturally on its own.

A long bridge is fine, just pull back less. You could try a shorter bridge but you don't want to choke the stroke. It's not that difficult. Make sure your feet are consistent.


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04-08-2016, 04:23 AM

Diagnosing this problem on the internet is like me calling my doctor to tell him I have a pain in my leg.

See an instructor. I read in another thread that you visited with Nick Varner recently, about kicking systems, maybe another visit to him is in order.


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04-08-2016, 08:54 AM

Even if one's stroke is perfect & you are not seeing properly for pool you will not be consistent.

You can NOT set up properly nor stroke properly if your eyes or eye is leading you astray.

The first thing to check is your eyes.

If they are off then that is the first thing that needs to be fixed.

IMO, Gene Albrecht is the best thing for a pool player...

even if to just make sure that one does NOT have an issue in that area.

Once one knows that the eyes are seeing properly, one can address other issues properly IF they exists.

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