Postive Covid19 Test at CSI / BCAPL event

7stud

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As of today in the USA...

4226 cases.
75 deaths.
75/4266 = 0.01758087201125175808720112517581

Yesterday it was...

3487 cases.
68 deaths.
68/3487 = 0.019501003728133065672497849154

... a difference of 0.00192013171688130758529672397819.

We're officially now UNDER 2%, all in a matter of days.
That isn't how you calculate the death rate. The problem with your calculations is that of the 4226 who currently have the corona virus, you don't know how many will die--all you know is how many have died so far.
 

TATE

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I will say this, we can't fault people for decisions made two weeks ago. That may as well been two years ago. Even one week ago, a lot of things were still going forward.

Today the governor of Hawaii just asked visitors to stay away for a month. Hawaii! That's all they have is tourism. Everything has canceled. A week may as well be a Covid-19 year. When finger pointing, I have to start with myself.

My advice to people: Careful what deposits you pay and what you pre-pay. Don't put yourself in a creditor position at this point in time.
 
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jrctherake

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EVERY medical expert has said repeatedly to a stay away from crowds, and all across the country local, state and the federal government were banning gatherings of more than 250 people, than it quickly went down to 50 people and now it's 10 people. In addition these same experts have been saying to keep a safe distance apart for several days now. Does that answer your question?

Jay,

Sir, if he is defending CSI, the casinos, the idiot's that went, etc...etc, well....I doubt your gonna change his way of thinking.

Jeff
 

Bob Jewett

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I attended CSI's event and they made a good call to stop the team events, but it's possible that the novel Coronavirus was spreading the entire time. Here are some good scientific articles worth reading:

Coronavirus: Why You Must Act Now

Why outbreaks like coronavirus spread exponentially, and how to “flatten the curve”

Impact of non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) to reduce COVID19 mortality and healthcare demand
Here are the official numbers -- a table of all reported infections every day in every country going back two months -- from the WHO. I hope Italy can "flatten the curve" but things do not look good there.

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports/

Remarkably, the US doesn't bother to report numbers on Saturday and Sunday.
 

Bavafongoul

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OMG.......we are quibbling over the actual death rate when literally millions of Americans are likely at serious risk of becoming infected. If you think the 150-170 million seems totally outlandish and absurd, okay, pick a number. How about half that number? Better yet, cut that in half. Now cut that in half again. Not enough, cut that in half one more time.

That number is 9.3 million to 10.6 million Americans. COVID-19 is twice as contagious as any Influenza and the incubation period before symptoms appear, if at all since younger folks can walk around feeling poorly but never showing any symptoms, well, the symptoms can appear within 72 hours of infection to as long as 28 to 30 days. Now just how many people do you think someone could contaminate in a week or two, or 3 to 4 weeks? Now let’s talk actual morbidity. As was earlier poignantly brought to your attention, you cannot determine morbidity without first knowing the population of infected persons and then the actual survival rate in that population. Absent that, you can derive the fatalities ratio per capital (100,000) by analyzing the morbidity stats by age and health group. Regardless, the best estimate to date, yes, the best estimate is between 1% and 1.? % but under 2%. And that is a supposition because of how far behind in testing our country is versus the rest of the world.

Well, we went from zero to a 100 in 2 1/2 weeks after denials by the White House so now we are in the throes of a crisis we haven’t seen since the days of Small Pox. We have no idea how many people are infected in the USA nor how fast this is spreading. You can never catch a moving train when it left the station the day before you got there. The rest of the world did not have the delays and missteps that has occurred with getting mass testing programs established like has happened in the USA.

The people that still ardently support the Prez are in absolute denial about how serious and deadly COVID-19 is and how many Americans are genuinely at risk. Ergo, they are finding it very difficult to buy into this but did anyone notice that today Prez told a whopper. When asked by a reporter at the news conference if he has gotten this wrong, he said he knew Coronavirus was a serious pandemic a long time ago, long before anyone started to refer to it a Pandemic. Hmn.....now that’s a good one.
 
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JAM

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I will say this, we can't fault people for decisions made two weeks ago. That may as well been two years ago. Even one week ago, a lot of things were still going forward.

Today the governor of Hawaii just asked visitors to stay away for a month. Hawaii! That's all they have is tourism. Everything has canceled. A week may as well be a Covid-19 year. When finger pointing, I have to start with myself.

My advise to people: Careful what deposits you pay and what you pre-pay. Don't put yourself in a creditor position at this point in time.

Cherry blossoms in D.C. peak this Saturday, and the Natinoal Park Service is posting signs to exercise social distancing. All festivities have been canceled.

I may go down just to get some photos because it will be a ghost town. Outside, I don't think there's as much danger as long as you're aren't near anybody and wear rubber gloves and don't touch your face. Gee, that sounds like fun! :embarrassed2:
 

ibuycues

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I did a little digging and they aren't sure that it was pool players or even if they came from Vegas. If you go to the group Calgary Pool Scene on facebook you can see the back and forth about where the initial report came from. Just as an FYI

Good post, thanks.
I posted just to give this a bit more visibility.
Hope all is well!
Will Prout
 

evergruven

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Here are the official numbers -- a table of all reported infections every day in every country going back two months -- from the WHO. I hope Italy can "flatten the curve" but things do not look good there.

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports/

Remarkably, the US doesn't bother to report numbers on Saturday and Sunday.

Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University
Data sources: WHO, CDC, ECDC, NHC and DXY and local media reports
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
 

jay helfert

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OMG.......we are quibbling over the actual death rate when literally millions of Americans are likely at serious risk of becoming infected. If you think the 150-170 million seems totally outlandish and absurd, okay, pick a number. How about half that number? Better yet, cut that in half. Now cut that in half again. Not enough, cut that in half one more time.

That number is 9.3 million to 10.6 million Americans. COVID-19 is twice as contagious as any Influenza and the incubation period before symptoms appear, if at all since younger folks can walk around feeling poorly but never showing any symptoms, well, the symptoms can appear within 72 hours of infection to as long as 28 to 30 days. Now just how many people do you think someone could contaminate in a week or two, or 3 to 4 weeks? Now let’s talk actual morbidity. As was earlier poignantly brought to your attention, you cannot determine morbidity without first knowing the population of infected persons and then the actual survival rate in that population. Absent that, you can derive the fatalities ratio per capital (100,000) by analyzing the morbidity stats by age and health group. Regardless, the best estimate to date, yes, the best estimate is between 1% and 1.? % but under 2%. And that is a supposition because of how far behind in testing our country is versus the rest of the world.

Well, we went from zero to a 100 in 2 1/2 weeks after denials by the White House so now we are in the throes of a crisis we haven’t seen since the days of Small Pox. We have no idea how many people are infected in the USA nor how fast this is spreading. You can never catch a moving train when it left the station the day before you got there. The rest of the world did not have the delays and missteps that has occurred with getting mass testing programs established like has happened in the USA.

The people that still ardently support the Prez are in absolute denial about how serious and deadly COVID-19 is and how many Americans are genuinely at risk. Ergo, they are finding it very difficult to buy into this but did anyone notice that today Prez told a whopper. When asked by a reporter at the news conference if he has gotten this wrong, he said he knew Coronavirus was a serious pandemic a long time ago, long before anyone started to refer to it a Pandemic. Hmn.....now that’s a good one.

Currently he is balking at invoking the Defense Production Act which would would allow private industry to ramp up production of much needed medical supplies. It was first suggested to him three weeks ago and his response then was "because of all we've done, the risk to the American people remains very low." At that time there were only 15 known cases here. He went on to say, "The 15 now will be down to zero in a couple of days." Some leadership he's given us and it continues on a daily basis. What we desperately need right now is more hospital beds, more ventilators and more respirators for the health workers. The worst is yet to come.

I wish to God my dire predictions are wrong, but all indications are I'm not. Our country could look like Italy in a couple of weeks, with everything on lockdown.
 

Dan_B

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We lost all of December (when the china19 brew was cooked up) and January because
of the snivelers - - - dream impeachment that the media and their supporters insisted
on carrying through with while those in the know of the real threats to this country and
the world were left with watching a train wreck.

...you could call all this a Christmas Gift Card from the Democrats.
 
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Cardigan Kid

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even trump, the person who least wanted to face the virus reality
is copping to it, and has declared a national emergency

so, how should we be acting?

I don't get political but couldn't let this go. Trump was the first leader of any NATO member nation to close his country's borders to flights from China back in January.
"Person who least wanted to face the virus reality" is not a logical statement. Something Stephen Colbert would spout off without thinking.
Had Italy or Germany had a Trump they wouldn't be in the situation they are in now.
 

scsuxci

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They say to stay away from large crowds and here in Canada you have over 500 people bombarding the Costco every morning now and nobody cares. Everything is shutting down but the LCBO stays open for tons of people gather. This is all smoke and mirrors. I believe this is faze 1 to see how people react. Faze 2 will come later on when everyone thinks its over. Population control is the goal, government is the virus.
 

CocoboloCowboy

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So even if said people got the virus, did they stay home sick, go to hospital, self quarantine, or die. Recall back in the early to mid 70's I was working in hospital, we had a bad flu bug. Hospital was full, staff was sick, all I got was OT needed for down payment on house.

BTW I grew up before the Polio Vacine, it was call infintalparalisis, that is why the March of Dime was started to find a cure. Actually a Vacine was found.

Trust me every kid in the USA & their parent worroied about being struck down with polio, winding up on crutches, in braces, or in a drinker & shaw Iran lung.

Remember Tommie1351, Member from Mantacia, CA. He was a Polio Kid, (that was the PC term then) vaccine came too late for him.

Being optimistic, not trusting News Media 2020, I think a puppet master is trying to destroy many thing in and about the USA. IMHO
 
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Kickin' Chicken

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I disagree. Several medical experts have used that number for people who will be ill enough to be hospitalized, and off those perhaps as many as 5% (1/4 of them) could die. That's a pretty high percentage imo. 5% of 500,000 is 25,000 deaths. Let's hope that is not the outcome here. Now that they have just begun more full scale testing in some areas we will get a more realistic view of what to expect.

here's a link to reliable stats on corona virus. You have many view options, country, state, etc etc

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
 

one stroke

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This is the truth no one wants to hear
I know several nurses here
One was at the bar with us saying people are just over reacting

Another sends me covid memes daily

Scaring everyone, which is pretty easy it seems , is the real danger

Well you can't fix stupid , Italy's death toll is over 2500 they should tell them it's not serious smh


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