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I agree with you. These hearings are hard to watch. It would be different if one of them would say something positive about the President.
That's the problem Tom, these have been fantastic witnesses. Trump could not have prepared them any better himself.

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That's the problem Tom, these have been fantastic witnesses. Trump could not have prepared them any better himself.

In reality, Trump has scored and scored big the last week. YUGE.
Everybody put on their partisan glasses and saw what they wanted to see. This is the world we live in now. Reality? Hmmm.


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Everybody put on their partisan glasses and saw what they wanted to see. This is the world we live in now. Reality? Hmmm.
There is NOT one piece of direct evidence. How is that partisan. Dude, if Trump had evidence against him, I'd be there colleting bets about him being removed from office. And I would get action.

I don't bet on who I like but who I believe will win. There is a reason I bet on Hillary, I dislike her more than any politician in history, but it appeared she had it in the bag with the MSM, and the FBI dragging her fat ass to the finish line.

Yeah, I lost the bet, but I'd make the same bet again if presented with the exact same facts. I had no idea someone could be so dumb as to throw a fixed fight ?

Lets break it down.

The dems don't have any "victims", so how can there be a bribery? The man it was said he bribed denied it... and the president of the Ukraine even had another guy that was privy to it and he denied it to. That's called strike one in a criminal prosecution.

There was nobody on the planet, yes, the planet as confirmed by Amb Sondland that has any evidence or heard anyone ask for QPQ. That's strike two.

There are not any direct witnesses to any threats of extortion or QPQ. We have hearsay, and nobody goes to jail on hearsay, and thus, POTUS are not removed from office for hearsay. There is not one document to suggest it. There is not one shred of evidence other that what some folks "presumed" to have happened. That's strike three.

I could not get a guy jay walking prosecuting with the above. "Yes, officer, some dude just told me that guy over there in the blue jacket just jaywalked".

Again, if this was damaging, why am I so giddy. I LOVED every witness, everyone. There was not a bad one in the bunch. I stand by every word they say and I want it in the record for ever, never to be sealed. And that's because they are not witnesses, because they didn't witness anything.

Oh, of course, there are the conspiracy theorists that are saying that Trump is so highly intelligent (see, he's a smart guy when they need to build a case against him... sound familiar? Bush was an evil genius that planned 911 but was called a moron for years) that he knew how to get QPQ without leaving a trail, like a Mob Boss.

And to that I say, well, then you need to drop your case, because if you think a prosecutor is going to trial with hearsay to take down a Mob Boss I have a bridge for sale. Mob bosses don't usually have first year law students to represent them. They ususally hire the top defense atty's in town, and a crew of them.

So, great, we can agree, no evidence on Trump because he's a genius and outsmarting everyone in the room. Fine, I'll concede if it makes the left happy, but there still is not enough evidence for a grand jury indictment (which the House is acting as) and certainly zero evidence to take it to trial (which the Senate will be). You don't build a case on thin air, it looks bad and incompetent which Schiff certainly playing the part. It's a nightmare scenario for the dems, as they know the IG report was coming to an end, and an indictment proceedings was the only thing to save the Russian scandal from finally blowing up. Dec 9th is not that far away, and I'm giddy, giddy I tell you.


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There is NOT one piece of direct evidence. How is that partisan. Dude, if Trump had evidence against him, I'd be there colleting bets about him being removed from office. And I would get action.

I don't bet on who I like but who I believe will win. There is a reason I bet on Hillary, I dislike her more than any politician in history, but it appeared she had it in the bag with the MSM, and the FBI dragging her fat ass to the finish line.

Yeah, I lost the bet, but I'd make the same bet again if presented with the exact same facts. I had no idea someone could be so dumb as to throw a fixed fight ?

Lets break it down.

The dems don't have any "victims", so how can there be a bribery? The man it was said he bribed denied it... and the president of the Ukraine even had another guy that was privy to it and he denied it to. That's called strike one in a criminal prosecution.

There was nobody on the planet, yes, the planet as confirmed by Amb Sondland that has any evidence or heard anyone ask for QPQ. That's strike two.

There are not any direct witnesses to any threats of extortion or QPQ. We have hearsay, and nobody goes to jail on hearsay, and thus, POTUS are not removed from office for hearsay. There is not one document to suggest it. There is not one shred of evidence other that what some folks "presumed" to have happened. That's strike three.

I could not get a guy jay walking prosecuting with the above. "Yes, officer, some dude just told me that guy over there in the blue jacket just jaywalked".

Again, if this was damaging, why am I so giddy. I LOVED every witness, everyone. There was not a bad one in the bunch. I stand by every word they say and I want it in the record for ever, never to be sealed. And that's because they are not witnesses, because they didn't witness anything.

Oh, of course, there are the conspiracy theorists that are saying that Trump is so highly intelligent (see, he's a smart guy when they need to build a case against him... sound familiar? Bush was an evil genius that planned 911 but was called a moron for years) that he knew how to get QPQ without leaving a trail, like a Mob Boss.

And to that I say, well, then you need to drop your case, because if you think a prosecutor is going to trial with hearsay to take down a Mob Boss I have a bridge for sale. Mob bosses don't usually have first year law students to represent them. They ususally hire the top defense atty's in town, and a crew of them.

So, great, we can agree, no evidence on Trump because he's a genius and outsmarting everyone in the room. Fine, I'll concede if it makes the left happy, but there still is not enough evidence for a grand jury indictment (which the House is acting as) and certainly zero evidence to take it to trial (which the Senate will be). You don't build a case on thin air, it looks bad and incompetent which Schiff certainly playing the part. It's a nightmare scenario for the dems, as they know the IG report was coming to an end, and an indictment proceedings was the only thing to save the Russian scandal from finally blowing up. Dec 9th is not that far away, and I'm giddy, giddy I tell you.
"I know that members of this Committee have frequently framed these complicated issues in the form of a simple question: Was there a 'quid pro quo?' As I testified previously, with regard to the requested White House call and White House meeting, the answer is yes," Sondland said. He laid the blame for masterminding the quid pro quo at the feet of Rudy Giuliani, the president's personal attorney.

"Mr. Giuliani conveyed to Secretary Perry, Ambassador Volker, and others that President Trump wanted a public statement from President Zelensky committing to investigations of Burisma and the 2016 election," Sondland said, adding that Giuliani also conveyed these messages to Ukrainian officials. "We all understood that these prerequisites for the White House call and White House meeting reflected President Trump's desires and requirements."
  
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Fixed that for you, PJ.
That's correct - the Republican "defense" for its wannabe Mob Boss consists of rightwing nutcase conspiracy theories.

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That's correct - the Republican "defense" for its wannabe Mob Boss consists of rightwing nutcase conspiracy theories.

Thanks for the support.

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It's always my favorite when you leftists are cornered...you pull out the "conspiracy theory" card.

Here's a hint.

It ain't working anymore.

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This is not evidence. Sorry to tell you that, but it's a fact and it's not in dispute.

If my friend rob's a bank, but you believed me to have told him to rob the bank, you better have a little more than "presumptions" and "He said, She said" when you come for me. Because I'm not getting arrested, indicted or convicted.

also, when the victim says that my friend did NOT rob his bank, that pretty much ends it for him as well. Get it?

The president of the Ukraine, the "victim" in the case has said there was not bribery, extortion or QPQ. SO, there is no victim, there are no witnesses, and there is no direct evidence. Yeah, great case you got there. This is WHY I want the house to impeach just to get some of those witnesses in the Senate trial.

Trump won again, might as well get use to it, he's not going anywhere, that also is a fact unless he gets hit by a bus.


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LMAO. Is that was the victim said? Oh, wait there was no victim? Is that what the witness said? Oh, wait there were no witnesses? Is that what the recording show, oh wait, that exonerated Trump as well.

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There is NOT one piece of direct evidence. How is that partisan. Dude, if Trump had evidence against him, I'd be there colleting bets about him being removed from office. And I would get action.

I don't bet on who I like but who I believe will win. There is a reason I bet on Hillary, I dislike her more than any politician in history, but it appeared she had it in the bag with the MSM, and the FBI dragging her fat ass to the finish line.

Yeah, I lost the bet, but I'd make the same bet again if presented with the exact same facts. I had no idea someone could be so dumb as to throw a fixed fight ?

Lets break it down.

The dems don't have any "victims", so how can there be a bribery? The man it was said he bribed denied it... and the president of the Ukraine even had another guy that was privy to it and he denied it to. That's called strike one in a criminal prosecution.

There was nobody on the planet, yes, the planet as confirmed by Amb Sondland that has any evidence or heard anyone ask for QPQ. That's strike two.

There are not any direct witnesses to any threats of extortion or QPQ. We have hearsay, and nobody goes to jail on hearsay, and thus, POTUS are not removed from office for hearsay. There is not one document to suggest it. There is not one shred of evidence other that what some folks "presumed" to have happened. That's strike three.

I could not get a guy jay walking prosecuting with the above. "Yes, officer, some dude just told me that guy over there in the blue jacket just jaywalked".

Again, if this was damaging, why am I so giddy. I LOVED every witness, everyone. There was not a bad one in the bunch. I stand by every word they say and I want it in the record for ever, never to be sealed. And that's because they are not witnesses, because they didn't witness anything.

Oh, of course, there are the conspiracy theorists that are saying that Trump is so highly intelligent (see, he's a smart guy when they need to build a case against him... sound familiar? Bush was an evil genius that planned 911 but was called a moron for years) that he knew how to get QPQ without leaving a trail, like a Mob Boss.

And to that I say, well, then you need to drop your case, because if you think a prosecutor is going to trial with hearsay to take down a Mob Boss I have a bridge for sale. Mob bosses don't usually have first year law students to represent them. They ususally hire the top defense atty's in town, and a crew of them.

So, great, we can agree, no evidence on Trump because he's a genius and outsmarting everyone in the room. Fine, I'll concede if it makes the left happy, but there still is not enough evidence for a grand jury indictment (which the House is acting as) and certainly zero evidence to take it to trial (which the Senate will be). You don't build a case on thin air, it looks bad and incompetent which Schiff certainly playing the part. It's a nightmare scenario for the dems, as they know the IG report was coming to an end, and an indictment proceedings was the only thing to save the Russian scandal from finally blowing up. Dec 9th is not that far away, and I'm giddy, giddy I tell you.
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