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I ordered some Navigator Soft tips. I'll post some impressions when i get them.



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I`m still making up my mind...
The tips are obviously high quality leather and very easy to work with, but the feel of the Navigator Soft tip is different to the feel of G2 or Zan Soft tips. The sound is different too.
The tip holds chalk fairly well and there is no mushrooming thus far.
The reason I`m not sure if I can recomend this tip or not is due to two reasons:
1. I simply havent played enough with it.
2. It`s installed on my Mezz Hybrid Pro II shaft, wich is a very stiff shaft and it`s not my main playing shaft.
I will get a second Mezz WX900 shaft in a week or so. I will install a Navigator Soft tip on that shaft and see how that turns out.
I will also be getting some of the new Navigator Medium tips pretty soon, I will be installing one on my Mezz Hybrid Alpha shaft and see how that feels.



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07-28-2014, 07:18 AM

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I`m still making up my mind...
The tips are obviously high quality leather and very easy to work with, but the feel of the Navigator Soft tip is different to the feel of G2 or Zan Soft tips. The sound is different too.
The tip holds chalk fairly well and there is no mushrooming thus far.
The reason I`m not sure if I can recomend this tip or not is due to two reasons:
1. I simply havent played enough with it.
2. It`s installed on my Mezz Hybrid Pro II shaft, wich is a very stiff shaft and it`s not my main playing shaft.
I will get a second Mezz WX900 shaft in a week or so. I will install a Navigator Soft tip on that shaft and see how that turns out.
I will also be getting some of the new Navigator Medium tips pretty soon, I will be installing one on my Mezz Hybrid Alpha shaft and see how that feels.
The thing is as advertised by Andy himself, he said every layer is of different hardness. Why would I want different hardness at each layer when there's S, M and Q. I don't get that point.
  
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Question Tips - 07-28-2014, 09:35 AM

I ordered some of the navigator tips, have installed a soft and a medium on 2 seperate cue"different " owners.. both player's gave me the same feed back.. sound is different and they both had issuse with miscues.. both used master's chaulk.. the medium tip switched to predator chaulk had no problems.. soft was replaced..messaged via Facebook to "navigator" about the issuse askking if they recommend a type of chaulk and have not received a response since July 17th...was looking forward to these being the "next " thing but....

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I do have a few extras if anyone is on the fence.. p.m. for price and availability.
  
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Thanks for the tips again. As far as a review goes, my initial impressions are mixed. The tips themselves came 'lopsided' and required extra care to ensure an install that made the layers look correct while spinning on a lathe. They trimmed up just as nice as a Kamui or Moori, if not better. I had some initial miscuing as well, but that was due to over hitting the ball. These tips and their 'powerful repulsion' is true. They act extra springy under softer-medium strokes. Just like Kamui makes they claims that they decrease deflection, these Navigator tips increase that performance gain. Can hit softer still and get that action you need.

Cons: new product price, quality of the tip being possibly lopsided.
Pros: competes with Moori and Kmaui in all departments. Trimmed up easier than all previous types of tips. Soft tip; hasn't mushroomed at all after 4 days of play. Breaking/masse strokes used too.
Points to note: the difference in sound was not noticed on the soft, have yet to play with the quick.

I'd recommend everyone who likes Moori's or Kamui's to try this tip. Also note that if the player doesn't have a proper clean stroke, these tips can exacerbate their stroke flaws and make them look real bad.

Added a pic of the two tips. In the original pictures Andy posted, he left the top yellow layer on top of the quick. It makes the tips, since he did it to the soft too, seem quite tall. The left tip is the quick, taken down to about the height I like a tip at. The right tip is the soft which I've left tall for right now to get a good sense of how much mushrooming to expect. None so far. Just shaved the tip down one more layer when I installed the quick.
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08-10-2014, 01:25 PM

It's like a rainbow at the end of my cue . Would like to try to but at 25$ I really don't see it being better then kamui, hell I play with a ultraskin and its fantastic.
  
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navigator tips - 08-10-2014, 01:43 PM

Glad they finally arrived ...I noticed that a person need to play closer to center to get same English... please keep me updated so I know if I want to order more..thanks again..
  
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The question becomes ,,,,, do you want to get rich quick by selling an over priced item???

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11-22-2014, 11:35 AM

I'm glad this got bumped back up. After two months on the end of my shafts I cut the tips off. I did this for a couple reasons. The Soft is no where near a true soft. It's more of a med-hard hit feel. The Quick makes a damn nice break tip, but almost unplayable overall. For my current feeling on these tips is anything more then $8/tip is overpriced. There just isn't a market for this tip at the price point they want. Even though both tips are very high quality leather. Trimmed up better than any other tip I've installed. The target audience for these tips do no exist.

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I'm glad this got bumped back up. After two months on the end of my shafts I cut the tips off. I did this for a couple reasons. The Soft is no where near a true soft. It's more of a med-hard hit feel. The Quick makes a damn nice break tip, but almost unplayable overall. For my current feeling on these tips is anything more then $8/tip is overpriced. There just isn't a market for this tip at the price point they want. Even though both tips are very high quality leather. Trimmed up better than any other tip I've installed. The target audience for these tips do no exist.

I'd recomend to Navigator to re-label the Soft as the Quick. Label the Quick as a break tip, and redevelop a proper Soft tip. There is nothing wrong with these tips besides the improper hardness labeling.
I`m glad this thread surfaced too. I wanted to like the Navigator tips, but I can`t get comfortable with these tips.
I have tested the Soft and the Medium Navigators, but the problem is that the tips are no where near their stated hardness/softness. It`s just confusing to play with and I have not managed to get any positive feedback from other players.



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