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Thumbs down becue/revo/cuetec carbon fiber are not the holy grail..YIKES - 01-04-2019, 05:34 AM

I HAVE TRIED ALL 3 AND HAVE RETURNED ALL 3...
i did not see any magical energy transfer/super spin generation/or better low deflection properties than my ob1+
maybe i dont play good enough to appreciate cabon fiber shafts
but its still the indian not the arrow and for me this was not a better arrow
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01-04-2019, 06:13 AM

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I HAVE TRIED ALL 3 AND HAVE RETURNED ALL 3...
i did not see any magical energy transfer/super spin generation/or better low deflection properties than my ob1+
maybe i dont play good enough to appreciate cabon fiber shafts
but its still the indian not the arrow and for me this was not a better arrow
jmho
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They may not be the holy grail...but then what shaft/cue is???

There are a LOT of pros playing (and playing well mind you) with CF shafts now and they aren't complaining about them. Sponsorship or not, if they thought their game was hindered by using CF products, I can assure you they would all go back to wood.

It almost seems (to me anyway) that SVB's game UP about a half-ball when he started using his CF shaft.

Just my opinion.

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01-04-2019, 06:24 AM

I noticed Josh Filler was playing with a wooden shaft when he won the World 9 Ball Championship in December instead of a Revo. Considering the fabulous year he had in 2017 using the Revo, it would be interesting to know his reasoning for the change.
  
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01-04-2019, 06:55 AM

If you think it makes you play better then it probably does. The placebo effect. I had one for a while and think it's a fine product. I liked the way that it hit and the minimum deflection. The color didn't bother me. My issues were that it didn't fit standard to my player so I had to buy a inexpensive butt to try it and I like having a 2nd shaft just in case and didn't want to have a 1000 tied up in shafts. And finally, I don't use a glove so the feeling was different than wood (not a deal breaker).

With top players, every little advantage may mean a victory so I can see the reason that they would try it. I've known a couple of good players that have switched from the Revo after giving it a good try. It's subjective and to each his own.


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01-04-2019, 07:15 AM

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I HAVE TRIED ALL 3 AND HAVE RETURNED ALL 3...
i did not see any magical energy transfer/super spin generation/or better low deflection properties than my ob1+
maybe i dont play good enough to appreciate cabon fiber shafts
but its still the indian not the arrow and for me this was not a better arrow
jmho
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i hate shafts that moonlight as contortionists: warping has lost me more money than deflection ever will... the combination of durability and performance is what impresses me, but the math is a little off with current pricing.
  
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01-04-2019, 07:23 AM

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i hate shafts that moonlight as contortionists: warping has lost me more money than deflection ever will... the combination of durability and performance is what impresses me, but the math is a little off with current pricing.
I think their math is perfect. For them!
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01-04-2019, 07:35 AM

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I HAVE TRIED ALL 3 AND HAVE RETURNED ALL 3...
i did not see any magical energy transfer/super spin generation/or better low deflection properties than my ob1+
maybe i dont play good enough to appreciate cabon fiber shafts
but its still the indian not the arrow and for me this was not a better arrow
jmho
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Thanks for the heads up Ö I will sleep much better tonight!!!
  
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Thanks for the heads up Ö I will sleep much better tonight!!!
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01-04-2019, 07:48 AM

I just think about guys like Buddy Hall who would be given a stick at the beginning of a tournament by some cuemaker....win the tournament....sell the "winning stick" at the end of the tournament, and travel on to the next event only to duplicate this process. (As described in the old biography RAGS TO RIFLEMAN)

Bugs never "owned" a cue. He would borrow one whenever he needed one and was the best banker/one pocket player of his era.

With all that being said, if you enjoy one of the new shafts - go for it. No judgement here. Whatever makes you enjoy the game!


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01-04-2019, 08:48 AM

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I just think about guys like Buddy Hall who would be given a stick at the beginning of a tournament by some cuemaker....win the tournament....sell the "winning stick" at the end of the tournament, and travel on to the next event only to duplicate this process. (As described in the old biography RAGS TO RIFLEMAN)

Bugs never "owned" a cue. He would borrow one whenever he needed one and was the best banker/one pocket player of his era.

With all that being said, if you enjoy one of the new shafts - go for it. No judgement here. Whatever makes you enjoy the game!
Fistfull of black beauties may have helped too.
  
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01-04-2019, 09:56 AM

And I just love people like you who compare what average players need compared to world champions. Who cares what Buddy hall played with . None of us here are that level. There is a reason they make cavity back golf clubs lol for the duffer

There is no such thing as a holly grail cue. If you like how something plays play with it. If not donít.

My favorite threads of the year are the ones asking what is the best cue. The answer is there is no best cue. whatever one feels the best to you. Any other answer you know they are a nit you should avoid lol


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I just think about guys like Buddy Hall who would be given a stick at the beginning of a tournament by some cuemaker....win the tournament....sell the "winning stick" at the end of the tournament, and travel on to the next event only to duplicate this process. (As described in the old biography RAGS TO RIFLEMAN)

Bugs never "owned" a cue. He would borrow one whenever he needed one and was the best banker/one pocket player of his era.

With all that being said, if you enjoy one of the new shafts - go for it. No judgement here. Whatever makes you enjoy the game!
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01-04-2019, 10:10 AM

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I HAVE TRIED ALL 3 AND HAVE RETURNED ALL 3...
i did not see any magical energy transfer/super spin generation/or better low deflection properties than my ob1+
maybe i dont play good enough to appreciate cabon fiber shafts
but its still the indian not the arrow and for me this was not a better arrow
jmho
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I use a Revo and it is awesome. Has about the same deflection as my previous shaft but is always smooth as silk, can't be dented, won't warp, cleans easily, feels great in my hands. I usually have a ding in my shaft within the first week of using a new one. No dings in this one even after banging it into things a few times.

Did you consider all the other advantages or were you just after lower deflection? If you were there is plenty of information online pointing out deflection is not remarkably better with a Revo than with earlier generation Predator shafts and others as well.
  
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Fistfull of black beauties may have helped too.
LMAO! I guess they didn't hurt. Seriously, if I remember the book right - Buddy was starting to become very religious at this point.


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And I just love people like you who compare what average players need compared to world champions. Who cares what Buddy hall played with . None of us here are that level. There is a reason they make cavity back golf clubs lol for the duffer

There is no such thing as a holly grail cue. If you like how something plays play with it. If not don’t.

My favorite threads of the year are the ones asking what is the best cue. The answer is there is no best cue. whatever one feels the best to you. Any other answer you know they are a nit you should avoid lol
I'm glad you love people like me. A lot of people care about what the champions play with. Hence the success of REVO.


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Snip snip snip... Who cares what Buddy hall played with . None of us here are that level.snip snip snip
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