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Question 9b Spot Opinions Needed - 08-28-2019, 05:36 AM

Here's the scenario:

A very strong shortstop & former road hustler is looking to make a game with an equivalent APA level 7 player whose strong points are he's a great shotmaker and vg position player but because he's so confident in his shot making ability he rarely plays safe and when he does he usually doesn't execute them well due to lack of familiarity. In fact, because of this I gave him his pool name, "Green Light" a tribute to his all offense game.

The spot:

The very strong shortstop is offering "Green Light" either the called 7-8 or the wild 6 in a race to 7.

Which do you think would offer "Green Light" the best chance to win? And why?

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08-28-2019, 06:19 AM

Wild 6 for sure

If it counts on the break, extra money balls

If he is stuck, a ram shot with two money balls has double the chance

If he's a great ball runner, he's only caring about running 6 balls on the table


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wild 6 - 08-28-2019, 07:09 AM

I would say the wild six too. Ol' Green Light has a game that luck plays a bigger part in than that of many players. Called shots don't favor an overaggressive player as much as wild balls.

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08-28-2019, 07:48 AM

I vote for the wild 6 also. I assume an APA 7, once on the 7, will usually get out.


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08-28-2019, 08:09 AM

I'm going to play devil's advocate here and vote called 7 and 8.

That's three money balls, and for an "APA 7" that prides himself on shotmaking he should be able to determine what hole those are ending up in.

The wild 6 is a good choice also, much lower in the line-up. It brings the money balls back down to 2 - and a great shortstop will never let him see the 6. He'll be kicking at it every chance he has to swing at it. And if he rarely plays safeties, what's his track record for getting out of those safeties?

Give him the 3 money balls instead of the 9 and a wild mid-ball, IMO

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08-28-2019, 08:22 AM

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Which do you think would offer "Green Light" the best chance to win? And why?

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Green Light's best chance to win: Negotiate winner breaks and rack your own. Use a magic rack. Win the flip for first break. Take the wild 6. Wire the six on the wing. Win seven in a row on the break! Easy peasy.
  
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08-28-2019, 08:31 AM

Wild green-ball for sure.
  
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08-28-2019, 08:33 AM

I like the 7/8... no way to hide the money ball in the rack, there is always going to be
A ball to call on the break that a good shot maker can expect, not to mention all the
Combos, caroms that ‘green light’ can go for.... in addition, there is no where (little to none) to hide from the 6 out for the opponent..has to get good on the 5 to get perfect on the 6 to complete the run or he’s in a serious deficit position.

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08-28-2019, 08:56 AM

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Here's the scenario:

A very strong shortstop & former road hustler is looking to make a game with an equivalent APA level 7 player whose strong points are he's a great shotmaker and vg position player but because he's so confident in his shot making ability he rarely plays safe and when he does he usually doesn't execute them well due to lack of familiarity. In fact, because of this I gave him his pool name, "Green Light" a tribute to his all offense game.

The spot:

The very strong shortstop is offering "Green Light" either the called 7-8 or the wild 6 in a race to 7.

Which do you think would offer "Green Light" the best chance to win? And why?

best,
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Who's the shortstop? I like hearing about strong players. Used to follow only semi-pros and shortstops for a while.
  
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08-28-2019, 10:51 AM

Is this game on 7 footers? A 7 in APA is about a 5 if they step up to a 9 footer.

If the game is on a 9 footer then give me the 7 and 8. I like 3 money balls.


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08-28-2019, 11:26 AM

Depends how it is racked, calling the 7-8 is fairly easy if in top 2 spots which is normally where they go. At least if you know the break.

If the apa 7 can break and run to 6, that will be better, but depends again on his ability. Sounds like better player isn’t worried about that if he is offering it.
  
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08-28-2019, 11:29 AM

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Is this game on 7 footers? A 7 in APA is about a 5 if they step up to a 9 footer.

If the game is on a 9 footer then give me the 7 and 8. I like 3 money balls.
it's on a 9 ft GC and "Green Light" is a solid 7 skill level on 9 footers, no shrinkage.


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08-28-2019, 11:33 AM

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Depends how it is racked, calling the 7-8 is fairly easy if in top 2 spots which is normally where they go. At least if you know the break.

If the apa 7 can break and run to 6, that will be better, but depends again on his ability. Sounds like better player isn’t worried about that if he is offering it.
no pattern racking allowed; just throw them in wherever they land and in the 'call 7-8 game' either of those potted on the break must be spotted at the end of breakers inning.


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08-28-2019, 11:42 AM

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no pattern racking allowed; just throw them in wherever they land and in the 'call 7-8 game' either of those potted on the break must be spotted at the end of breakers inning.
Hmmm....more info needed.
Spot balls with no pattern racking?....so the wild six won’t count on the break?
...how tight is the table?
Are the extra money balls treated as the 9-ball....spotted if illegally made?


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08-28-2019, 12:21 PM

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... Are the extra money balls treated as the 9-ball....spotted if illegally made?
And does the spotter get to slop in the called 7 and 8?

It's more exciting to go into the game without having discussed the details of the spot, but for this analysis it would be good to know how the spots work. There is no standard. I've seen conditions trotted out for "called" spotted balls in the middle of matchups much to the surprise of the spottee.


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