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09-26-2019, 06:56 AM

snooker players are not sponsored by tip manufacturers, still most of them use elkmasters soaked and pressed. i have to assume they are acting rational given the prize money at stake

i use layered tips myself and have done since the old moori days
  
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09-26-2019, 07:05 AM

I once played a sniper cue tip on a schon for 5 years and loved it

then I sold Gilbert martinez my cue because he explained he needed it and I didn't

After that I played triangle

If i were not quitting I think I would get Bob Owen
to make me some elk masters I always wanted to play like Efren

you think this might be what was holding me back?
  
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09-26-2019, 07:08 AM

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I once played a sniper cue tip on a schon for 5 years and loved it

then I sold Gilbert martinez my cue because he explained he needed it and I didn't

After that I played triangle

If i were not quitting I think I would get Bob Owen
to make me some elk masters I always wanted to play like Efren

you think this might be what was holding me back?
Yes, according to Ronnie.

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09-26-2019, 08:21 AM

I'll probably try out a techno dud because of this thread. I see one for sale on seyberts. They're made by Outsville, right? Or is it a generic name?

Either way, these don't mushroom very much, right?

I've had the experience described by the OP. A kamui layered tip seems soft with a good hit when you first get it, but then feels hard and not much feedback later on.
  
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09-26-2019, 08:38 AM

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Not the Elkmasters, they come in 9,10 and 11 with the 10 being the most common.

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Thereís a gap in understanding here. Iím sure youíre talking about specific snooker tips. Elkmasters as a tip brand are made up to 14mm, with 13 and 14mm the most popular in the US.


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09-26-2019, 09:08 AM

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Thereís a gap in understanding here. Iím sure youíre talking about specific snooker tips. Elkmasters as a tip brand are made up to 14mm, with 13 and 14mm the most popular in the US.
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09-26-2019, 09:13 AM

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I'll probably try out a techno dud because of this thread. I see one for sale on seyberts. They're made by Outsville, right? Or is it a generic name?

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Yes that is a brand, vs milk duds or duds that are generic. The problem that I found playing with them is that being compressed they are not as tall and they wear fast. I didn't feel any difference in play and maintenance between milk duds and Triangles, I think the compression brings them to a similar hardness. Triangles are cheaper and last longer.

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Elkmaster and Elk Pro - 09-26-2019, 10:41 AM

The tips are called Elkmaster and Elk Pro. The Elk Pro is supposed to be a more carefully selected and processed Elkmaster. One Elk Pro costs roughly the same as one box, fifty, Elkmasters. I found about nine super light tips weighing a box of Elkmasters. Discarding these, the rest played fine and held up well.

A person could buy a set of scales, two boxes of Elkmaster tips, and still be money ahead instead of buying one three tip box of Elk Pro tips which seems to be how they come, boxes of three.

Started using Elkmasters or duds back in the eighties. I have tried other things, never found a tip I liked better or that lasted enough differently to notice. Tips last me for ages.

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Shane's tip......... - 09-26-2019, 05:26 PM

According to Cuetec Shane uses the stock sniper on his Cynergy.
  
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09-27-2019, 06:40 AM

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don't forget Earl in the Elkmaster discussion as he has used them pretty much exclusively during his career.

Does that make Elkmaster a great tip for you (or me)? It's very subjective but I think it's safe to say that some guys have achieved great things using them.

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This one surprises me because I worked on Earls tip in the 90s and it was a LePro.
  
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09-27-2019, 06:56 AM

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don't forget Earl in the Elkmaster discussion as he has used them pretty much exclusively during his career.

Does that make Elkmaster a great tip for you (or me)? It's very subjective but I think it's safe to say that some guys have achieved great things using them.

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I believe his go to tips were the original Moori tips, he was getting old stock for years until it dried up. I also heard he flirted with milk duds of one type or other. Never heard he used EM, but would bet he's tried everything at least once. Mike Gulyassy told me Early went through 13 tips in one day trying out a shaft..


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09-27-2019, 06:59 AM

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This one surprises me because I worked on Earls tip in the 90s and it was a LePro.
Well, that answers that... I personally HATED LePro, they mushroomed on me before I even hit a hall...


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09-27-2019, 07:03 AM

I only shoot with Pooldawg8's milk duds...they're the nuts. After a day's breaking in, they last me about 6 months of heavy daily play. The trick for me is to not touch the tip once I get it shaped, my playing style and chalking keeps it in good shape. After a few years' trying out various layered tips, I went back to what I started out with, pressed single layer, so OP's information doesn't surprise me at all.


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09-27-2019, 07:24 AM

Well not all Triangles are created equal. Which is why I press mine. I like a shorter tip, in my mind the tips feel doesn't change as much as when the tip starts tall and wears down.

Consistency is the biggest advantage with layered tips IMHO.

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09-27-2019, 07:30 AM

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Well, that answers that... I personally HATED LePro, they mushroomed on me before I even hit a hall...
I had a Le Pro installed recently and when I got it back from my repair guy, it mushroomed when I dropped it into my case! lol
  
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