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07-27-2012, 10:22 AM

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But what about choice? It's BS to tax or ban plastic bag; gov't shouldn't be dictating people on what they can and can't use.
If the "government" doesn't, then the corporations will.

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If the "government" doesn't, then the corporations will.

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Yeah, just like the damn gov't banning us from buying inefficient incandescent bulb. It's a terrible thing to do.


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07-27-2012, 11:50 AM

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Yeah, just like the damn gov't banning us from buying inefficient incandescent bulb. It's a terrible thing to do.
Much better to replace it with the toxic fluorescent bulbs.....LOL!





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Wash your old bags. - 07-27-2012, 11:53 AM

Reusable Grocery Bags are Filthy Garbage

Unwashed reusable bags carry germs and bacteria that present a serious health hazard to the general public

By Shawn Hess · May 10, 2012 ·

It’s a great trend, many people are choosing to buy reusable grocery bags rather than continuing to litter our landfills with thousands and thousands of paper and plastic shopping bags. It has also probably saved the stores involved thousands of dollars, but some recent research studies have found a big issue with the reusable bag trend.

Basically a lot of people are remembering to bring the bags to the store, but too many are forgetting to wash those bags. After awhile that unwashed shopping bag becomes more like a used garbage bag that we keep putting our groceries in. Sound appetizing?

Almost two years ago a University of Arizona study found that reusable shopping bags carry all sorts of extremely hazardous bacteria and germs including Salmonella and e-coli. The bags were even traced back to cases of death, with the most significant risk being to the elderly and very young.

Charles Gerba, professor of soil, water and environmental science and co-author of the study at the University of Arizona comments on the results:

“Our findings suggest a serious threat to public health, especially from coliform bacteria including E. coli, which were detected in half of the bags sampled,”

“Furthermore, consumers are alarmingly unaware of these risks and the critical need to sanitize their bags on a weekly basis.”


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Do Americans REALLY care about our environment? - 07-27-2012, 11:58 AM

Enough to not want a bunch of corrupt politicians using it as an excuse to raise taxes, increase regulations, and strip away freedoms while doing positively NOTHING to affect the environment.
If you think your typical leftist- like obama- cares as much about the "environment" as they do "control" over citizens your either naive or stupid (a few of you qualify for both categories).


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07-27-2012, 12:07 PM

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Enough to not want a bunch of corrupt politicians using it as an excuse to raise taxes, increase regulations, and strip away freedoms while doing positively NOTHING to affect the environment.
If you think your typical leftist- like obama- cares as much about the "environment" as they do "control" over citizens your either naive or stupid (a few of you qualify for both categories).
CO, I think that you already know my positions. The entire parasitic government is a corrupt, bought-and-paid-for, extension of the financial elite, who are no better, perhaps worse than their pawns. Our entire fiat financial system is one giant Ponzi scheme, wrought with fraud, lies, manipulation, and propaganda.

The financial elite prosper with power and money, while the Serfs pay....and cheer their Masters.

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Enjoy your plastic "seafood".... - 01-31-2017, 06:31 AM

Microplastics Found in Supermarket Fish, Shellfish

January 29th, 2017

Via: CBC:

Tiny pieces of plastic are making their way into fish and shellfish found at the supermarket, a new study has shown.


The findings are part of a report prepared for the International Maritime Organization, the UN agency responsible for preventing marine pollution.

It’s not yet been established what effect these tiny particles of plastic will have on the humans who consume them, the report says.

Researchers do know, however, that microplastics get into aquatic habitats from many different sources, says Chelsea Rochman, an assistant professor of ecology and evolutionary biology at the University of Toronto and co-editor of the report.

These range from tiny fibres that come off the synthetic fabrics of our clothing, to bits of car tire that wear off on roads and make their way through storm drains into waterways, she says.

They also vary in size such that they can be consumed by marine animals both big and microscopic.

“It has infiltrated every level of the food chain in marine environments and likely fresh water, and so now we’re seeing it come back to us on our dinner plates,” says Rochman.
  
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01-31-2017, 06:39 AM

Well you need the plastic to carry all the pharmaceuticals that are in the water.


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06-29-2017, 05:50 AM

Plastic Bottle Apocalypse

June 28th, 2017

Via: Guardian:

New figures obtained by the Guardian reveal the surge in usage of plastic bottles, more than half a trillion of which will be sold annually by the end of the decade.

The demand, equivalent to about 20,000 bottles being bought every second, is driven by an apparently insatiable desire for bottled water and the spread of a western, urbanised “on the go” culture to China and the Asia Pacific region.

Scientists at Ghent University in Belgium recently calculated people who eat seafood ingest up to 11,000 tiny pieces of plastic every year.
  
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06-29-2017, 05:55 AM

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Plastic Bottle Apocalypse

June 28th, 2017

Via: Guardian:

New figures obtained by the Guardian reveal the surge in usage of plastic bottles, more than half a trillion of which will be sold annually by the end of the decade.

The demand, equivalent to about 20,000 bottles being bought every second, is driven by an apparently insatiable desire for bottled water and the spread of a western, urbanised “on the go” culture to China and the Asia Pacific region.

Scientists at Ghent University in Belgium recently calculated people who eat seafood ingest up to 11,000 tiny pieces of plastic every year.
Bottle water is the biggest scam ever.

Everything should go back to glass.


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Bottle water is the biggest scam ever.

Everything should go back to glass.
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08-01-2017, 05:52 AM

Plastic Garbage Patch Bigger Than Mexico Found in Pacific

July 31st, 2017

The ground up plastic is turning up in sea salt that people are eating now.

Via: Article with video: National Geographic:

Water, water, everywhere—and most of it is filled with plastic.

A new discovery of a massive amount of plastic floating in the South Pacific is yet another piece of bad news in the fight against ocean plastic pollution. This patch was recently discovered by Captain Charles Moore, founder of the Algalita Research Foundation, a non-profit group dedicated to solving the issue of marine plastic pollution.

Moore, who was the first one to discover the famed North Pacific garbage patch in 1997, estimates this zone of plastic pollution could be upwards of a million square miles in size. (Read: A Whopping 91% of Plastic Isn’t Recycled.)

The team is currently processing the data and weighing the plastic so they can get a handle on exactly how much garbage they’ve discovered in this area off the coast of Chile and Peru.
  
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09-07-2017, 06:22 AM

Plastic Fibres Found in Tap Water Around the World

September 6th, 2017

The ground up plastic is turning up in sea salt that people are eating now.


Via: Guardian:

Microplastic contamination has been found in tap water in countries around the world, leading to calls from scientists for urgent research on the implications for health.

Scores of tap water samples from more than a dozen nations were analysed by scientists for an investigation by Orb Media, who shared the findings with the Guardian. Overall, 83% of the samples were contaminated with plastic fibres.

The US had the highest contamination rate, at 94%, with plastic fibres found in tap water sampled at sites including Congress buildings, the US Environmental Protection Agency’s headquarters, and Trump Tower in New York. Lebanon and India had the next highest rates.

European nations including the UK, Germany and France had the lowest contamination rate, but this was still 72%. The average number of fibres found in each 500ml sample ranged from 4.8 in the US to 1.9 in Europe.

The new analyses indicate the ubiquitous extent of microplastic contamination in the global environment. Previous work has been largely focused on plastic pollution in the oceans, which suggests people are eating microplastics via contaminated seafood.

“We have enough data from looking at wildlife, and the impacts that it’s having on wildlife, to be concerned,” said Dr Sherri Mason, a microplastic expert at the State University of New York in Fredonia, who supervised the analyses for Orb. “If it’s impacting [wildlife], then how do we think that it’s not going to somehow impact us?”

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A couple of points:
Banning plastic bags would increase fuel prices, the same way banning sales of dog meat would increase the prices of meat.

Also, big deal if plastic doesn't decompose easily. 99.999% of the earth is rock and that doesn't decompose easily.

Funny how the environazis, who have been taken over by the commies, pushed for the replacement of paper bags by plastic bags years ago.

oh, and, plastic bags don' pose a big threat to sea animals. Do some googling and discover, shock horror, that that is another enviro BS campaign.

FWIW: Plastic bags are one of the greatest convenience inventions in human history. They don't pollute my house. Only some government property. Maybe we ought to blame the governments who can't keep their property clean.

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It demonstrates the reality of seeking govt power to rule over others: It's about power, not the environment or the trees or the oil or anything else but power.

I love plastic bags. I reuse them for many things. What a great invention for reducing waste and increasing convenience!

I guess "Save the Trees" isn't the current pc model.


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09-07-2017, 11:06 AM

i used to care.
I would pour my used motor oil into the ground so it would recycle itself
Now they say that's wrong!
I'm confused.


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