Go Back   AzBilliards.com > Main Category > Non Pool Related
Reload this Page Trump is just six senate votes away from impeachment
Reply
Page 1 of 3 1 23
 
Share Thread Tools Rate Thread
Trump is just six senate votes away from impeachment
Old
  (#1)
336Robin
aimisthegameinpool.com
336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute
 
336Robin's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 13,395
vCash: 1700
iTrader: 8 / 100%
Blog Entries: 1
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: West of Winston-Salem, NC
   
Trump is just six senate votes away from impeachment - 10-03-2019, 12:34 PM

Oh, yes, oh yes, oh yes. The court of public opinion is now in session.
Let's count the votes we have towards impeachment.


TRUMP IS JUST SIX SENATE VOTES AWAY FROM IMPEACHMENT
ELAINE C. KAMARCK
ON 8/17/17 AT 9:04 AM EDT https://www.newsweek.com/trump-just-...achment-651857

Could President Trump Be Impeached? Questions Float As Trump's Approval Rate Dips To The Lowest.

This article first appeared on the Brookings Institution site.

At some point in 2019 (if not sooner) a Republican Senator may walk into the Oval Office and say to President Trump: "Mr. President, we don't have the votes," at which point the Trump presidency will end in a resignation or a conviction in the Senate.

This scenario actually occurred forty-three years ago this summer when Republican Senator Barry Goldwater walked into the Oval Office and told Republican President Richard Nixon that they didn't have the votes in the Senate to save his presidency.

Following impeachment in the House, a trial takes place in the Senate. Conviction requires two-thirds of the Senate and by my count there are already twelve senators who have shown a willingness to take on the president when they believe he is in the wrong.

If you add that to the forty-eight Democrats in the Senate (who have shown no inclination to work with this President), Donald Trump could be six votes away from conviction in the Senate.

GettyImages-157769091
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) listen on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC, 06 December, 2012.
ALEX WONG/GETTY


Of course this assumes that the forces now in motion continue on their same trajectory and result in an impeachment vote. They are: the investigations into the Trump campaign; evidence of weakness in the Republican base ; historical trends indicating a possible Democratic takeover in the House; and, last but not least, defiance in the Senate. [1]

This last trend should be particularly worrisome for the president. Article I of the Constitution gives them the last word on the presidency. And yet instead of making friends in the Senate, Trump has done exactly the opposite.

After the Senate failed to pass his Obamacare replacement, Trump took to Twitter to denounce them as "fools" and "total quitters." That could not have gone over well with the senators who opposed him along the way. One of them, Senator Susan Collins (R-Maine), arrived home to an impromptu gathering of supporters at the Portland airport who applauded her vote against the president's replacement of Obamacare.

Senator Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) was defiant after being called out by the president, saying " No second thoughts at all. None," after her vote against the president on health care. Senator Mike Lee (R-Utah) has been none too pleased with the efforts to repeal Obamacare, insisting that it " does not go far enough in lowering premiums for middle-class families."

But perhaps the most high profile opposition to the president came from Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.), who returned to Washington from his hospital bed to cast the dramatic and final vote killing the Republican replacement for Obamacare. After Trump, during the presidential campaign, ridiculed McCain's seven years in a prison camp in Hanoi, the Arizona senator showed he is clearly not afraid to take on the president.

Another Republican senator from the west, Dean Heller (R-Nev.) also felt free to criticize the President and vote against him on several key issues. Senators Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) have been vocal in their opposition to the president's budget—especially the proposed cuts in drug treatment programs.

Capito threatened to lead "a bipartisan group of my colleagues on the Appropriations Committee and in the Senate to reject those proposed cuts." They are part of the 18 Republican senators who voted against the Trump budget.

A second major setback for the president in the Senate was passage of a Russia sanctions bill that curtailed the president's freedom of action in adjusting sanctions—a clear signal that an overwhelming number of senators don't trust the president on Russia issues.

As a further reflection of that inter-branch distrust, there are two bipartisan bills in the Senate which would check the president's ability to fire the special prosecutor Robert Mueller looking into the Russia issue.

One is sponsored by Senator Thom Tillis (R. N.C.) and Senator Christopher Coons, (D-Del.) and the other by Senator Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Senator Cory Booker (D-N.J.). Senator Graham has gone so far as to warn the president that firing Mueller would mark "the beginning of the end of the Trump Administration."

And then there is the man who used to be the president's closest friend in the Senate, Jeff Sessions, who endorsed Trump when no one else would and became his Attorney General only to suffer weeks of embarrassing insults from the President.

Senators such as Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) have defended Sessions against the president, warning that if Sessions is fired there will not be a confirmation hearing for another attorney general this year.

RELATED STORIES
You Don't Have to Commit a Crime to be Impeached
Democrat Calls for Invoking 25th Amendment Over Trump
Robert Reich: More Than Enough Evidence to Impeach


Senator Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has been a consistent thorn in President Trump's side, repeatedly questioning his foreign policy appointments and insisting in an op-ed, "Make no mistake, no matter who is president or what their party is, it is my firm belief that the president needs congressional authorization for military action, as required by the Constitution."

Finally, Senator Jeff Flake, (R-Ariz.) wrote an entire book accusing President Trump of abandoning conservative Republican principles. Flake is facing a tough re-election race, and his book Conscience of a Conservative (the same title used by his hero Senator Barry Goldwater 57 years ago), is either a Hail Mary play, a genuine attack on what Trump has done to his party, or both. In it he writes, "Never has a party so quickly or easily abandoned its core principles as my party did in the course of the 2016 campaign."

These 12 Republicans have no fear of the president. You could probably add Senator Cory Gardner (R-Colo.), who is up for re-election in 2020 and whose state also voted for Clinton in 2016. The president needs to start making friends in the United States Senate.

[1] On average, since the Truman Era, a president's party loses more than 28 House seats in his first midterm election. (In 2018, Democrats need to pick up 24 seats to win back the House.)

Elaine C. Kamarck is a Senior Fellow in the Governance Studies program as well as the Director of the Center for Effective Public Management at the Brookings Institution. She is the author of " Primary Politics: Everything You Need to Know about How America Nominates Its Presidential Candidates ," " Why Presidents Fail And How They Can Succeed Again ," " How Change Happens—or Doesn't: The Politics of US Public Policy " and " The End of Government--As We Know It: Making Public Policy Work."


"Let your "Stick" do the talking!"

336Robin
"Improve your shot making forever for $3.99!"


The Target Ball Concept-Aiming,
The Flight of the Cue Ball-Aiming Adjusted for Side Spin,
Robbing the Bank Shot!-Pass Over Banking
Change your game for a couple of Bucks! and
Comes with a lesson!

website:http://aimisthegameinpool.com
  
Reply With Quote

Old
  (#2)
memikey
Never Has Been
memikey has a reputation beyond reputememikey has a reputation beyond reputememikey has a reputation beyond reputememikey has a reputation beyond reputememikey has a reputation beyond reputememikey has a reputation beyond reputememikey has a reputation beyond reputememikey has a reputation beyond reputememikey has a reputation beyond reputememikey has a reputation beyond reputememikey has a reputation beyond repute
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 20,225
vCash: 1700
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: I'm lost.
   
10-03-2019, 12:46 PM

You realise that's an article published 2 years ago in August 2017 right?


Mike
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#3)
jimmyg
Mook! What's a Mook?
jimmyg has a reputation beyond reputejimmyg has a reputation beyond reputejimmyg has a reputation beyond reputejimmyg has a reputation beyond reputejimmyg has a reputation beyond reputejimmyg has a reputation beyond reputejimmyg has a reputation beyond reputejimmyg has a reputation beyond reputejimmyg has a reputation beyond reputejimmyg has a reputation beyond reputejimmyg has a reputation beyond repute
 
jimmyg's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 31,378
vCash: 500
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Join Date: Jun 2006
   
10-03-2019, 12:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by memikey View Post
You realise that's an article published 2 years ago in August 2017 right?
What tipped you off, Mikey?

Hope you're doing well.
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#4)
Sofla
AzB Silver Member
Sofla has a reputation beyond reputeSofla has a reputation beyond reputeSofla has a reputation beyond reputeSofla has a reputation beyond reputeSofla has a reputation beyond reputeSofla has a reputation beyond reputeSofla has a reputation beyond reputeSofla has a reputation beyond reputeSofla has a reputation beyond reputeSofla has a reputation beyond reputeSofla has a reputation beyond repute
 
Sofla's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 43,411
vCash: 500
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Sunshine State
   
10-03-2019, 12:49 PM

This is from 2017, and its math no longer applies.

Sen. Flake is now out of the Senate. The D Senate seats went from 49 to 47 (including the two Independents that vote with them) in the 2018 mid-term election.

Any of the R senators left from 2017 have all fully succumbed to PDJT (Sen. Rand Paul, Sen. Lindsay Graham, etc.)

In reality, PDJT is now TWENTY R Senate votes from CONVICTION of impeachment (and removal). Of course, the Senate count has nothing to do with his impeachment per se, since that is entirely a House majority vote determination.


The point of modern propaganda isn't only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.

― Garry Kasparov

... the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either -- but right through every human heart -- and through all human hearts.

― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#5)
conetip
AzB Silver Member
conetip has a reputation beyond reputeconetip has a reputation beyond reputeconetip has a reputation beyond reputeconetip has a reputation beyond reputeconetip has a reputation beyond reputeconetip has a reputation beyond reputeconetip has a reputation beyond reputeconetip has a reputation beyond reputeconetip has a reputation beyond reputeconetip has a reputation beyond reputeconetip has a reputation beyond repute
 
conetip's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 4,851
vCash: 2900
iTrader: 28 / 100%
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hamilton, New Zealand
   
10-03-2019, 12:50 PM

2 years later they still didn't get the 6 votes needed, and won't this time round neither.


Neil Lickfold.
Cuttlefish Cues.
cuttlefishcues@gmail.com
Sorry, not taking any cue orders until further notice.
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#6)
time to play no
AzB Silver Member
time to play no has a reputation beyond reputetime to play no has a reputation beyond reputetime to play no has a reputation beyond reputetime to play no has a reputation beyond reputetime to play no has a reputation beyond reputetime to play no has a reputation beyond reputetime to play no has a reputation beyond reputetime to play no has a reputation beyond reputetime to play no has a reputation beyond reputetime to play no has a reputation beyond reputetime to play no has a reputation beyond repute
 
time to play no's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 5,018
vCash: 500
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: central NC
   
10-03-2019, 12:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by memikey View Post
You realise that's an article published 2 years ago in August 2017 right?
Poor boy is his own worst enemy.
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#7)
BryanBpool
M.T.F.B.
BryanBpool has a reputation beyond reputeBryanBpool has a reputation beyond reputeBryanBpool has a reputation beyond reputeBryanBpool has a reputation beyond reputeBryanBpool has a reputation beyond reputeBryanBpool has a reputation beyond reputeBryanBpool has a reputation beyond reputeBryanBpool has a reputation beyond reputeBryanBpool has a reputation beyond reputeBryanBpool has a reputation beyond reputeBryanBpool has a reputation beyond repute
 
BryanBpool's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 5,127
vCash: 500
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sunny FL
   
10-03-2019, 12:59 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by memikey View Post
You realise that's an article published 2 years ago in August 2017 right?
oh robin....... lol

smh
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#8)
336Robin
aimisthegameinpool.com
336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute
 
336Robin's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 13,395
vCash: 1700
iTrader: 8 / 100%
Blog Entries: 1
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: West of Winston-Salem, NC
   
10-03-2019, 01:06 PM

Just saying! lol


"Let your "Stick" do the talking!"

336Robin
"Improve your shot making forever for $3.99!"


The Target Ball Concept-Aiming,
The Flight of the Cue Ball-Aiming Adjusted for Side Spin,
Robbing the Bank Shot!-Pass Over Banking
Change your game for a couple of Bucks! and
Comes with a lesson!

website:http://aimisthegameinpool.com
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#9)
Casual Observer
Viva... yeah whatever
Casual Observer has a reputation beyond reputeCasual Observer has a reputation beyond reputeCasual Observer has a reputation beyond reputeCasual Observer has a reputation beyond reputeCasual Observer has a reputation beyond reputeCasual Observer has a reputation beyond reputeCasual Observer has a reputation beyond reputeCasual Observer has a reputation beyond reputeCasual Observer has a reputation beyond reputeCasual Observer has a reputation beyond reputeCasual Observer has a reputation beyond repute
 
Casual Observer's Avatar
 
Status: Online
Posts: 21,806
vCash: 4100
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Join Date: May 2006
   
10-03-2019, 01:14 PM

This thread is a perfect example of how this place has gone down the tubes over the past couple years.
Between the nonstop idiocy from the Yahoo Trooper and the Pedophile from PI, it's turned into a cesspool of stupidity.


"...And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw..."

Neil Peart

“...I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine...”
Atlas Shrugged
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#10)
336Robin
aimisthegameinpool.com
336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute336Robin has a reputation beyond repute
 
336Robin's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 13,395
vCash: 1700
iTrader: 8 / 100%
Blog Entries: 1
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: West of Winston-Salem, NC
   
10-03-2019, 01:23 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
This thread is a perfect example of how this place has gone down the tubes over the past couple years.
Between the nonstop idiocy from the Yahoo Trooper and the Pedophile from PI, it's turned into a cesspool of stupidity.
Every single time that you say or act stupid, I'm like hell yeah! lol It's so worth it!


"Let your "Stick" do the talking!"

336Robin
"Improve your shot making forever for $3.99!"


The Target Ball Concept-Aiming,
The Flight of the Cue Ball-Aiming Adjusted for Side Spin,
Robbing the Bank Shot!-Pass Over Banking
Change your game for a couple of Bucks! and
Comes with a lesson!

website:http://aimisthegameinpool.com
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#11)
Sofla
AzB Silver Member
Sofla has a reputation beyond reputeSofla has a reputation beyond reputeSofla has a reputation beyond reputeSofla has a reputation beyond reputeSofla has a reputation beyond reputeSofla has a reputation beyond reputeSofla has a reputation beyond reputeSofla has a reputation beyond reputeSofla has a reputation beyond reputeSofla has a reputation beyond reputeSofla has a reputation beyond repute
 
Sofla's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 43,411
vCash: 500
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Sunshine State
   
10-03-2019, 01:43 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
This thread is a perfect example of how this place has gone down the tubes over the past couple years.
Between the nonstop idiocy from the Yahoo Trooper and the Pedophile from PI, it's turned into a cesspool of stupidity.
If you think they are trolling, the well understood social media advice can be followed: Don't Feed the Trolls!

To clarify, the idea is if they do not receive feedback (including negative feedback), they will eventually lose interest.

I am practicing this advice a lot with certain posters. I will admit it doesn't seem to work, even when almost EVERYONE else also has no reply (cf: Slide's political quote and strong black woman threads, and others).

Not to say any particular posters, named or unnamed, are trolls or are trolling.There are other reasons to ignore certain posters besides those specific reasons, such as your putting me and others on ignore. And if the shoe doesn't fit, you must acquit.


The point of modern propaganda isn't only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.

― Garry Kasparov

... the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either -- but right through every human heart -- and through all human hearts.

― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#12)
FairladyZ
The Boss Stooge
FairladyZ has a reputation beyond reputeFairladyZ has a reputation beyond reputeFairladyZ has a reputation beyond reputeFairladyZ has a reputation beyond reputeFairladyZ has a reputation beyond reputeFairladyZ has a reputation beyond reputeFairladyZ has a reputation beyond reputeFairladyZ has a reputation beyond reputeFairladyZ has a reputation beyond reputeFairladyZ has a reputation beyond reputeFairladyZ has a reputation beyond repute
 
FairladyZ's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 7,585
vCash: 1700
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Mizzou
   
10-03-2019, 01:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by 336Robin View Post
Just saying! lol
Please explain what you were saying? This should be good....all I saw was a lot of outdated/false/phony information.


If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.


I have never quoted someone in my signature....but I found such a shallow idiotic comment like this worthy!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Johnson View Post
Everybody already knows that "conservative" means "bigot".

pj
chgo
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#13)
ChicagoRJ
EEEEEXCELLENT ;)
ChicagoRJ has a reputation beyond reputeChicagoRJ has a reputation beyond reputeChicagoRJ has a reputation beyond reputeChicagoRJ has a reputation beyond reputeChicagoRJ has a reputation beyond reputeChicagoRJ has a reputation beyond reputeChicagoRJ has a reputation beyond reputeChicagoRJ has a reputation beyond reputeChicagoRJ has a reputation beyond reputeChicagoRJ has a reputation beyond reputeChicagoRJ has a reputation beyond repute
 
ChicagoRJ's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 36,633
vCash: 500
iTrader: 83 / 100%
Blog Entries: 1
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: 35 miles West of Chiraq
   
10-03-2019, 01:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by memikey View Post
You realise that's an article published 2 years ago in August 2017 right?
shhhhhhhh, let him play, it keeps him from hurting himself or others. The more mindless stuff he can work on, the better


RUSSIAN Magic Chalk - "The Best Chalk of the World"


TZAR Tips now available.

"I have been playing pool for 60 years and started using Kamui about four years ago. I tried Magic Chalk several months ago and will use it from now on" - jrhendy - Noted Player and Gambler

Baltic BLUE & Chernobyl GREEN


Check us out in "For Sale" section on AZB


ChicagoRJ, the Minister of Truth and Magic Chalk. - WGDave
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#14)
JC
Needs Moderation

JC has a reputation beyond reputeJC has a reputation beyond reputeJC has a reputation beyond reputeJC has a reputation beyond reputeJC has a reputation beyond reputeJC has a reputation beyond reputeJC has a reputation beyond reputeJC has a reputation beyond reputeJC has a reputation beyond reputeJC has a reputation beyond reputeJC has a reputation beyond repute
 
JC's Avatar
 
Status: Online
Posts: 11,660
vCash: 500
iTrader: 25 / 100%
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: PNW
   
10-03-2019, 02:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by 336Robin View Post
Just saying! lol
Goes to show the beat never changes with you idiots.

You will have just over 5 more years to build your case and then go piss up a rope when the next Republican is elected.

People are sick and tired of this demented illogical commie Democrat shit. You have your little nut hugging man bun base to have a circle jerk with though. I guess that's some solace.


JC

It's not what you don't know that get's you in trouble
It's what you know that just ain't so
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#15)
Hunter
The King of Memes
Hunter has a reputation beyond reputeHunter has a reputation beyond reputeHunter has a reputation beyond reputeHunter has a reputation beyond reputeHunter has a reputation beyond reputeHunter has a reputation beyond reputeHunter has a reputation beyond reputeHunter has a reputation beyond reputeHunter has a reputation beyond reputeHunter has a reputation beyond reputeHunter has a reputation beyond repute
 
Hunter's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 5,351
vCash: 1000
iTrader: 103 / 100%
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Arizona: Land of a Half Million Illegal Immigrants and a "dry heat"...
   
10-03-2019, 02:12 PM

But perhaps the most high profile opposition to the president came from Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.), who returned to Washington from his hospital bed to cast the dramatic and final vote killing the Republican replacement for Obamacare. After Trump, during the presidential campaign, ridiculed McCain's seven years in a prison camp in Hanoi, the Arizona senator showed he is clearly not afraid to take on the president.

If he's the most high profile opposition, I wouldn't be too worried. McCain is dead...



Robin is our very own Lawn Mower Man!
Attached Images
 


"I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain it to you"...

Last edited by Hunter; 10-03-2019 at 02:39 PM.
  
Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 1 of 3 1 23

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.