John Schmidt's 626

lfigueroa

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You are a bit behind the times. Most people don't have DVD players anymore and the market for them is becoming obsolete. Video On Demand would be the route to go. No shipping cost and no wait times. People can get it instantly so those impulse buyers can get it now. Also any locked DVD can be copied with technology now. Freddy the Beard was bootlegging copies of DVDs years ago. Any video that is online can be downloaded.

I do agree John should get it out there while there is still some buzz around it. I offered to help him make that happen so hopefully soon. John deserves to get paid and shame on everyone discrediting the guy when BCA has certified it as the world record. There have been very honest and credible people who watched the run and say its legit. Then we have the minions on here posting discrediting someone's life long goal and incredible accomplishment. Probably a little envious I would say because they don't have the talent. I think I will trust those who have watched it and the BCA.

P.S. Jay is the $10,000 offer still good for the video as you touted for years?


What buzz?!

There’s not even a low level hum going on at this point, lol. And how and why does he “deserve” squadouche? He went off and took a flyer at a record few know and even fewer care about.

Envious? Nah.
Dubious? You bet.

Lou Figueroa
 

straightline

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This closeup of the spinning/curving CB shows two measles rotating on a tilted "equator" on the CB. The added black lines are my best guess, based on carefully watching the spinning ball, at how much the axis of rotation is tilted and therefore where all 6 measles are located on the ball (at the ends of the black lines). Looks to me like there's a very good chance the bottom measle is touching the cloth.

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So did this thing act like a cylinder right there? What are the odds an errant fan blew it into the pocket? You can hear one in the background. Staged? For um, chumming?
 

ugotactionTX

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its a good idea...

but theres really no such thing as a truly "locked dvd". Pretty easy to get around that. The most secure way would be pay per view but even then its pretty easy to capture the streams.

But let's be honest... how many "locked dvd's " would he sell anyway? I just can't imagine there being a huge run on them and I'm one of the interested ones!





There's no reason why John couldn't be selling "locked" copies of his DVD's of the record run. He could probably sell them for $100 apiece plus shipping and get more than a few customers. 100 sales equates to $10,000! Far more than he's made on his one or two showings of the video.
 

iusedtoberich

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...snip...

P.S. Jay is the $10,000 offer still good for the video as you touted for years?

I know you and Jay have a beef going on right now, and I like you both... But I'm pretty sure when JS ran the balls that Jay did offer the 10K. I recall JS wanted life changing money, not one trip to the casino money.
 

Johnny Rosato

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JS and 812, 1132, or what ever the record is is not an issue or consideration.
Nor is the money.
This boy is obsessed with the number, regardlss of how it has to be reached.
It's seems it's been an obsession for a long time now, still cai't do it.
In a period of time as is, it should be fairly easy to find the right photographers and editors to skew the results any way your money could swing 'em.
I'll give the guy the Mr. 400 title, bout for as I'll go!
 

dr_dave

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I also doubted the "bulging dot" theory at first; but after seeing how hard it was to duplicate the motion in my set of video experiments, I started to believe it more. It is difficult to explain the motion otherwise. Although, I still think it was caused by a "Perfect Storm" of several factors working together, as summarized at the end of my video.
Think it’s possible he had enough cue elevation to make the draw and side spin grab as a masse? I feel like that possibility wasn’t part of your experiments as it seemed to focus on level-cue side spin action only.
Masse action is definitely not a possible contributing factor for the large curve occurring late in that shot. The ball is rolling slowly with sidespin only. Any masse spin (if there was any remaining) would have worn off much earlier, soon after the hit.

Regards,
Dave
 

jay helfert

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You are a bit behind the times. Most people don't have DVD players anymore and the market for them is becoming obsolete. Video On Demand would be the route to go. No shipping cost and no wait times. People can get it instantly so those impulse buyers can get it now. Also any locked DVD can be copied with technology now. Freddy the Beard was bootlegging copies of DVDs years ago. Any video that is online can be downloaded.

I do agree John should get it out there while there is still some buzz around it. I offered to help him make that happen so hopefully soon. John deserves to get paid and shame on everyone discrediting the guy when BCA has certified it as the world record. There have been very honest and credible people who watched the run and say its legit. Then we have the minions on here posting discrediting someone's life long goal and incredible accomplishment. Probably a little envious I would say because they don't have the talent. I think I will trust those who have watched it and the BCA.

P.S. Jay is the $10,000 offer still good for the video as you touted for years?

My offer got stale a long time ago. It was probably still good for maybe a month or so, but after that when I didn't hear anything from John I pretty much forgot about it. He showed no interest in selling the rights to the video. If I had gotten my hands on it, something would have happened quickly to release it to the public. By now the value of the video has lost most of it's shelf life. And after all the confusion surrounding his "run" I wouldn't touch it with a 10' pole. John can sell it to the high bidder or take it to his grave for all I care.

My offer to lay you 2500 to 2000 on the coming presidential election is still good though. I'll take Biden and you can have Humpty Trumpty. :D
 
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jay helfert

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I know you and Jay have a beef going on right now, and I like you both... But I'm pretty sure when JS ran the balls that Jay did offer the 10K. I recall JS wanted life changing money, not one trip to the casino money.

You are correct. My offer was still good but John declined. Right or wrong, he felt that the video was worth far more. More power to him if he ever makes any money off it now.
 

trob

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Fake news.

Heated slate caused a ball to turn...riiiiight.

Did you see this video that is chopped? How do we know mosconi’s was legit..there is just people who signed saying it would happen but pool players will sign their name to anything given the right amount of money
 

Fast Lenny

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My offer got stale a long time ago. It was probably still good for maybe a month or so, but after that when I didn't hear anything from John I pretty much forgot about it. He showed no interest in selling the rights to the video. If I had gotten my hands on it, something would have happened quickly to release it to the public. By now the value of the video has lost most of it's shelf life. And after all the confusion surrounding his "run" I wouldn't touch it with a 10' pole. John can sell it to the high bidder or take it to his grave for all I care.

My offer to lay you 2500 to 2000 on the coming presidential election is still good though. I'll take Biden and you can have Humpty Trumpty. :D

Your buddy Dennis posted $1750 to my $1000. You can bet the same. Giving you a discount as Biden is -190 favorite here. Offer good until line moves. We both would love to win this bet so lets do it. It funny money for you as you said so the little odds shouldn't matter much.

As for your offer to John for $10000 for the video rights I feel that is fair. I think you could sell 500 digital copies online for $20 a pop, maybe more. If John wanted to pull a fast one he could have done it long ago. His record is the result of handwork and a great accomplishment. $10000 is pittance for what he did but the market for it is what it is. Straight pool sadly is less popular then most pool games. Johns accomplishment is one of the greatest in pool ever though and we all know that.
 

Black-Balled

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I didn't mean to imply that the red was wearing faster or slower than the white on the balls I referenced.

I would think the red would need to be what is potentially sticking out though, in this case.

Interesting point. But aren't most of those in the camp of varying wear saying that the red dots wear quicker than the rest of the cue ball? That's mostly what I've heard.

And I have to wonder, and doubt that John would have used a worn cue ball to the point that it would behave erratically.

As for the performance and wear of Aramith cue balls, over 47 years of playing with various cue balls, first made by Albany Ball Company, and then Aramith, I have never seen a dot, circle, spot, insignia, or anything wear out quicker, or stick out with less wear, that would make a significant difference in the path or the cue ball, spin or not. And I've seen some very worn cue balls. That would include very worn Blue Circles, Blue Dots, Red Circles, Measles, the Aramith Pro Cup, and of course, plain cue balls with no markings.

All the best,
WW
 

lfigueroa

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Your buddy Dennis posted $1750 to my $1000. You can bet the same. Giving you a discount as Biden is -190 favorite here. Offer good until line moves. We both would love to win this bet so lets do it. It funny money for you as you said so the little odds shouldn't matter much.

As for your offer to John for $10000 for the video rights I feel that is fair. I think you could sell 500 digital copies online for $20 a pop, maybe more. If John wanted to pull a fast one he could have done it long ago. His record is the result of handwork and a great accomplishment. $10000 is pittance for what he did but the market for it is what it is. Straight pool sadly is less popular then most pool games. Johns accomplishment is one of the greatest in pool ever though and we all know that.


Business 101: How to Spot a Bad Deal:

The prospectus says you might break even and you should consider your investment a "pittance."

Lou Figueroa
 

The_JV

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Lest we forget. JS made a statement that if the public was unwilling to pay to see his video, that the public would never see it(the unedited video). So far, he's held true to his word.

Man I hope this "record" wasn't the catalyst for him getting into the hall of fame.
 

Dan Harriman

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Masse action is definitely not a possible contributing factor for the large curve occurring late in that shot. The ball is rolling slowly with sidespin only. Any masse spin (if there was any remaining) would have worn off much earlier, soon after the hit.

Regards,
Dave

Yer science is worthless. What is it bidon said? "listen to yer conscience" - ha ha subliminal messaging - what a joke.
 

Dan Harriman

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Did you see this video that is chopped? How do we know mosconi’s was legit..there is just people who signed saying it would happen but pool players will sign their name to anything given the right amount of money

I have heard many people who would have loved to run a hundred - but never could - use the term 'pool players' in a negative way. Most all yer posts are of bca puppet nature, u would do well to NOT speak negative generalizations regaurding' Pocket Billiard players, not all of us are dishonest. I would always read very carefully before signing my name on any contract - no matter the monetary sum - they (bca/predator cues/hill' of fame) are offering. I hope u eventually lose yer bitterness towards 'pool players' yes many of them do gamble and - play much better than u - deal with it - without being afraid. So u are definitely not going to like it when bca has to retract their statement bout Mosconi's 526 being surpassed by j.s. It may take yrs but they will eventually be hard pressed to not answer some basic questions about the legitimacy of their hidden tape - from the gen. public's eye. Personally i think u and bca are going to get trobled'. Do you find it odd - that u never publicly questioned Mosconi's (15 signed signatures affidavit) until someone claimed to have surpassed it - WITHOUT SHOWING UNEDITED FOOTAGE? U SHOULD. Too bad 4 u, ur kind of a bitter soul - yer wetting yerself'- in the present tense right now.
 
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jay helfert

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Your buddy Dennis posted $1750 to my $1000. You can bet the same. Giving you a discount as Biden is -190 favorite here. Offer good until line moves. We both would love to win this bet so lets do it. It funny money for you as you said so the little odds shouldn't matter much.

As for your offer to John for $10000 for the video rights I feel that is fair. I think you could sell 500 digital copies online for $20 a pop, maybe more. If John wanted to pull a fast one he could have done it long ago. His record is the result of handwork and a great accomplishment. $10000 is pittance for what he did but the market for it is what it is. Straight pool sadly is less popular then most pool games. Johns accomplishment is one of the greatest in pool ever though and we all know that.

I don't need you for a financial advisor but thanks anyway. If you think it's such a good deal then why don't you ask John if he would take $10,000 now for full rights to the video? I'm no longer interested, although I might buy a copy from you for $20. :rolleyes:
 
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