flat faced shaft on piloted joint
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In a word, yes
Thanks for the reply. And maybe I should provide some more details. I have an old Schon in below average condition that my son uses, shaft is rough. It was a pawn shop find years ago to get him started. He's got an opportunity to buy a OB1 Classic shaft at a very good price and was thinking it may be a nice shaft upgrade. But the OB shaft is flat faced and the Schon has a piloted joint. Was wondering if the match would be solid enough. Opinions welcome.
In another word, yes
Could probably get a used schon shaft cheaper than what you would pay for the O3 and insert.
Is that a generic 5/16-14 insert or a true Schon insert. On Schon, not only are the threads different, but the pilot is .530", larger than the generic .500".
IMO, a pilot .030" too small defeats it's usefullness.
The only thing that fits schon right perfect is schon shaft I know. Jacoby is real snug on a schon but.
Joss pilots don't fit snug on joss cues. Its basically just an insert that adds front weight. And possibly that ping sound hit that steel joint cue guys like
Joss pilots don't fit snug on joss cues. Its basically just an insert that adds front weight. And possibly that ping sound hit that steel joint cue guys like
There's a more important thing you have to ask yourself, and it can only be found out when you put the flat face shaft on a piloted joint.
And that is, does the shaft joint surface snug up nice and flush to the joint? If so, good so far. Snug it down, you see daylight, problem. Second question, is the diameter of the shaft joint about the same as the joint? If so, good. if way different, especially larger, you may get some wobble issues. It also may be uneven compared to the joint. Shaft may have a warp in the first place, maybe not. Lot of nasty refinish work out there that unevens things. Give it a good look.
Flush fit, no matter whether flat or piloted, and what about that diameter. Hope that helps. And as always,
All the best,
WW
Will offers sound advice with meaningful information unlike the one word answer proffered earlier
that was incomplete and misleading but that’s pretty typical considering the source of the opinion.
that was incomplete and misleading but that’s pretty typical considering the source of the opinion.
Thanks for the input.
Always, glad to help.
One more tip. Clean the joint pin good, paper towel, against those threads. And then, clean the inside of the shaft insert, with a folded paper towel. Screw it in good, then back it out slowly, so you don't lose some of the towel. A lot of crap will come out. Can't tell you the number of times I've solved a guy's problem with a cue vibrating because too much dirt was inside the joint surfaces. Keep those joints clean.
All the best,
WW
Doesn't seem like any trouble to come up with spacers; male or female; makes me wonder too if say a soft spacer would soften the hit etc...
Thats clever , never ever thought of that . Thanks !
But , mind elaborating exactly how do you fit in a paper towel into the shaft insert and trying to screw the butt joint in ?
Wont the paper get ripped n get stuck inside ?
A picture will be good
I play with a Runde w/ Searing shaft that has a very slight overhang at the joint, I’m tempted to ask Bob to build a shaft slightly overhanging to see if that’s why I like it so much. I don’t think there is a reason, certain pieces of wood and material just work. 2nd best playing cue I’ve tried was off the wall, was able to get it cheap but still haven’t had it converted years later.