I shoot with the same guy most every day,can not play a lick but still has fun.He claims to have run 11 racks playing straight pool so I say lets play a quick one to 50.It went fast ..4 innings 50 to 7 me. His hi run was 3 or 4..I had a 19.I watch his rack managment and made a proposition...I bet he cannot run a rack with ball in hand every shot. I offered 4 to 1 on the money as long as we bet $25. Poor guy. failed 4 times...picked off ducks with no thought of breaking up clusters ....knew he would same as he plays 8 ball when he gets BIH. Lest you all think I am some heartless sob I did give his cash back.Just another fun day in Az........Chuck
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Here's another sucker bet for you. Give him 2-1 that he can't break and run a rack of Six Ball. After he fails at that, raise the odds to 3-1. It takes a good player to beat that game at 3-1. A shortstop probably won't win at 4-1. If you don't believe me just try it yourself. Remember you must make a ball on the break and run out from there!
And for all of you that are now paying attention I hate to give this one up. If you spot your opponent the break in Six Ball, they are giving you way the best of it. In fact one of my favorite traps was to give the five and the break to someone who played my speed or better! They couldn't win at that game!!
I'm getting old now so I'm starting to give away some of my best trade secrets. For free, no less! :smile-us-down:
There was a poster here that claimed to be a real good straight pool player.
He was coming to Denver to see relatives.
I told him to let me know when and we would play some.
He warned me that he had a high run of 130 balls.
We met up and played straight pool.
This guy couldn't run 6 balls with an open rack.
Why would he make a boast of being good and then get exposed?
He was exposed a couple times after that and has disappeared or posts under a different name now.
He was coming to Denver to see relatives.
I told him to let me know when and we would play some.
He warned me that he had a high run of 130 balls.
We met up and played straight pool.
This guy couldn't run 6 balls with an open rack.
Why would he make a boast of being good and then get exposed?
He was exposed a couple times after that and has disappeared or posts under a different name now.
chuck the guy plays for fun and you give him his money back. why burst his bubble. its obvious you can beat him easily so it cant make you feel good to run him down and show him his weaknesses.
when you play someone always make it fun for them whether you are playing for money or not.
when you play someone always make it fun for them whether you are playing for money or not.
If you feel guilty about playing this guy for money, change the game to just for entertainment. Maybe you should be thankful you can play pool, and have a regular guy to play with.
Some would call you very lucky.
JMHO
Is that a standing offer to all azb members?
I came up in an old time pool room in Jersey in the early '60s.
It was run by a former road player/tournament player.
I used to have a guy named Harry that would come in every Wednesday night to play straight pool for $5 a game.
He had no chance to win but would donate the money.
He was about 35 and I was 16.
the old man that ran the place says to me he's your customer entertain him buy him a soda.
Why I hated nine ball!
Back in the day a lot of the action in town was on a bar box. Those that wanted to play nine ball didn't want to "waste" those last six balls so it was nine, six over and over. I was somewhere around 70-80% to pocket a ball off a nine ball rack, especially on a table I knew. Never more than maybe fifty-fifty breaking six ball. Pissed me off to win the nine ball and give it right back on the six. Funny thing, I played somebody that always racked the six ball rack first and didn't mind nearly as bad! Partially in my head. I was still winning, just not as fast playing six and nine. I was a bit better than 50-50 winning the six ball game so I wasn't really going backwards, just felt like it.
Spotting the breaks at six ball would have been to my advantage, should have done it. At the least I would have been giving up very little.
Hu
Back in the day a lot of the action in town was on a bar box. Those that wanted to play nine ball didn't want to "waste" those last six balls so it was nine, six over and over. I was somewhere around 70-80% to pocket a ball off a nine ball rack, especially on a table I knew. Never more than maybe fifty-fifty breaking six ball. Pissed me off to win the nine ball and give it right back on the six. Funny thing, I played somebody that always racked the six ball rack first and didn't mind nearly as bad! Partially in my head. I was still winning, just not as fast playing six and nine. I was a bit better than 50-50 winning the six ball game so I wasn't really going backwards, just felt like it.
Spotting the breaks at six ball would have been to my advantage, should have done it. At the least I would have been giving up very little.
Hu
Ha Ha, more old memories brought back to life. Using the whole rack on a bar table (to save a quarter!) was common back then. Same when the nine ball was made out of turn, early in the rack. We would rack them up and use the extra balls to make a full 9-Ball rack. The money ball might be the twelve ball or even the fifteen, whichever ball was the highest one in the rack.
Tell the truth, you did the same thing! :smile:
All to save that extra quarter.
We would have people while you were getting down on either the money ball or the ball before the shot to tell you to shoot it soft so they could catch it and save it for the next rack.
Doing this while GAMBLING.
Doing this while GAMBLING.
Ha Ha, more old memories brought back to life. Using the whole rack on a bar table (to save a quarter!) was common back then. Same when the nine ball was made out of turn, early in the rack. We would rack them up and use the extra balls to make a full 9-Ball rack. The money ball might be the twelve ball or even the fifteen, whichever ball was the highest one in the rack.
Tell the truth, you did the same thing! :smile:
All to save that extra quarter.
Sure did!
I jumped at the chance to build another nine ball rack. Aside from anything else they couldn't make up a six ball rack then!
I don't remember ever playing bar room nine ball for over fifty a game but even at fifty a game they didn't want to waste those six balls!
In the eighties it was costing us fifty cents a rack of balls too. Inflation must have hit early around here. I have to admit after staying gone so long I still flinch at jamming four or six quarters in a bar table.
Room owner scam would be to sell tokens. When I looked into car washes guys were selling tokens that were never used. Tokens cost eight cents back then and sold for a dollar or dollar and a half. Some car washes were netting $20K or more from unused tokens. Of course buyers could make a big score and buy them for a dollar one place and use them where they sold for a dollar and a half!
My junior high school buddy turned me on to a life of crime. A coin shop opened up in the shopping center. They had a big box of coins, your choice for fifteen cents. Some coin from south america was the same size and weight as a quarter. Buy them up when the guy restocked and then go to the laundromat and buy cokes from the machine, get the coke and a dime change for a fifteen cent coin!
He showed me the straw trick too. All the bottles laid down in those machines so you could open them with a church key while they were still in the machine. Lose about three-fourths of the drink but the rest was free by joining a few straws together to suck it out. Made a heck of a mess! He was into shoplifting too. I was working making big money, thirty-five cents an hour, so I decided all of the stuff he was doing wasn't worth getting in trouble for. Last time I heard of him he was killing bugs for a living. I suspected he was gonna end up making license plates.
Speaking of scams, a guy that worked for me would go out every night and score a few bucks playing the twenty hole machine(just like a twenty-five hole machine but less holes) then drink beer and tap the first fat ugly broad he could get ahold of! A pretty fifteen year old wife at home but he was out getting the strange, very strange, stuff!
What was wild is that when he couldn't beat the machine he would stomp on some book matches and flatten them out a bit and stick them under one leg of the machine. It would be frowned on anywhere but he was doing it in a good hands people ran joint. The Mississippi River and bridge were only about a mile away and I used to joke that the reason they had to dredge around the pilings every few years was because of all of the old jukeboxes and cigarette machines down there with chains still attached to them!
Hu
Ha Ha, more old memories brought back to life. Using the whole rack on a bar table (to save a quarter!) was common back then. Same when the nine ball was made out of turn, early in the rack. We would rack them up and use the extra balls to make a full 9-Ball rack. The money ball might be the twelve ball or even the fifteen, whichever ball was the highest one in the rack.
Tell the truth, you did the same thing! :smile:
All to save that extra quarter.
I jumped at the chance to build another nine ball rack. Aside from anything else they couldn't make up a six ball rack then!
I don't remember ever playing bar room nine ball for over fifty a game but even at fifty a game they didn't want to waste those six balls!
In the eighties it was costing us fifty cents a rack of balls too. Inflation must have hit early around here. I have to admit after staying gone so long I still flinch at jamming four or six quarters in a bar table.
Room owner scam would be to sell tokens. When I looked into car washes guys were selling tokens that were never used. Tokens cost eight cents back then and sold for a dollar or dollar and a half. Some car washes were netting $20K or more from unused tokens. Of course buyers could make a big score and buy them for a dollar one place and use them where they sold for a dollar and a half!
My junior high school buddy turned me on to a life of crime. A coin shop opened up in the shopping center. They had a big box of coins, your choice for fifteen cents. Some coin from south america was the same size and weight as a quarter. Buy them up when the guy restocked and then go to the laundromat and buy cokes from the machine, get the coke and a dime change for a fifteen cent coin!
He showed me the straw trick too. All the bottles laid down in those machines so you could open them with a church key while they were still in the machine. Lose about three-fourths of the drink but the rest was free by joining a few straws together to suck it out. Made a heck of a mess! He was into shoplifting too. I was working making big money, thirty-five cents an hour, so I decided all of the stuff he was doing wasn't worth getting in trouble for. Last time I heard of him he was killing bugs for a living. I suspected he was gonna end up making license plates.
Speaking of scams, a guy that worked for me would go out every night and score a few bucks playing the twenty hole machine(just like a twenty-five hole machine but less holes) then drink beer and tap the first fat ugly broad he could get ahold of! A pretty fifteen year old wife at home but he was out getting the strange, very strange, stuff!
What was wild is that when he couldn't beat the machine he would stomp on some book matches and flatten them out a bit and stick them under one leg of the machine. It would be frowned on anywhere but he was doing it in a good hands people ran joint. The Mississippi River and bridge were only about a mile away and I used to joke that the reason they had to dredge around the pilings every few years was because of all of the old jukeboxes and cigarette machines down there with chains still attached to them!
Hu
the opponent reportedly claimed to have run 11 racks in straight pool, a 165. If true, that would have made him a good player in any town, small or big. At least that day.
Judging from the op's account, guy probably embellished his resume some.
best,
brian kc
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I am grateful to have a regular playing partner..try to make our games closer. Eightball I let him take 3 balls off the table and give him BIH to start.Nine ball the breaks and last 2 We have played 9 ball banks...his scratches do not cost him and he gets BIH anywhere when I foul or scratch,CJ would be proud...my friend shoots every shot with TOI but I would call itTon instead of touch. He can make some crazy shots that require killing the angle but on any shot where he needs outside to make the ball it just aint gonna happen.I have tried to help him many times but he tells me he has always played this way.It is all fun but as the man said "a man has got to know his limitations".
I am grateful to have a regular playing partner..try to make our games closer. Eightball I let him take 3 balls off the table and give him BIH to start.Nine ball the breaks and last 2 We have played 9 ball banks...his scratches do not cost him and he gets BIH anywhere when I foul or scratch,CJ would be proud...my friend shoots every shot with TOI but I would call itTon instead of touch. He can make some crazy shots that require killing the angle but on any shot where he needs outside to make the ball it just aint gonna happen.I have tried to help him many times but he tells me he has always played this way.It is all fun but as the man said "a man has got to know his limitations".
I had a bar table specialist try that with me one time.
He kept bothering me to play six-ball on the bar table and I had not played in a long time, so I told him he was just too good for me at the moment.
He offered me the break.
I bustled him out of several hundred dollars before he knew what happened. He spent the majority of his time racking.