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11-23-2008, 10:55 AM

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ill think about but you have to be nice this time lol and not write 40 pages about me if i win again.
Good point. I think it would be in both parties' interest to have a 30 day NDA after the match is over. This will cut down on the loser's post-match-whining. I would love to see this match on DVD.

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11-23-2008, 11:47 AM

TAR is in whenever the guys want to do the match.

I know John's backer Gary went to KC and I think if he is in on this one it is only fair that he have the first shot at holding it in his room in Victorville, California if he wants to. We would love to do it at the Derby but scheduling something like this around the tournaments would be a nightmare. A match with this history deserves it's own showcase without a player having to worry about making a 10 AM match. We are open to whatever the guys agree on though and will make it happen.

When I talked to Danny at the Open I think his words were "I don't care where it is. I will play anywhere in the United States and I am ready to go right now."

I think John might just be playing a little hard to get right now. I bet after he thinks about it for awhile that competitor in him is going to be hard to ignore.

After two all around's the count stands:

14.1: Split sets

One Pocket: Split sets

10 Ball: Split sets

I don't care if they play another all around or just one game. There HAS TO BE A FINAL MATCH !!!!!!

If we have to get a ref involved and all the details of the game on paper before hand then so be it. Hopefully both guys can agree on a game , rules and stipulations to make this happen. Anything Chad or I can do to help just let us know.

Man I want to see this thing go off.
  
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11-23-2008, 11:55 AM

Is John from Victorville? I thought I read that somwhere
  
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history? - 11-23-2008, 12:10 PM

Have there been 2 all-around matches already between them? That's what I got from JCIN"s post......Was it for the same stakes both times? If they both won once, then this will be the tie-breaker........
  
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11-23-2008, 12:36 PM

I think Danny has a picture of John in his room that he throws darts at.
  
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11-23-2008, 12:45 PM

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Have there been 2 all-around matches already between them? That's what I got from JCIN"s post......Was it for the same stakes both times? If they both won once, then this will be the tie-breaker........
The first match:

14.1 Race to 400 points: John wins

1 Pocket Race to 10: Danny wins (hill-hill)

10 ball Race to 30: Danny wins (30-28)

Second match about 6 months later :

14.1 Race to 400 points: Danny wins

1 Pocket Race to 10: John wins (hill-hill again)

10 ball Race to 30: John wins

Each set was for $3300 a set with the agreement that if they split the first two they would play the final set for $10,000. Both sets came down to one guy having to win a hill hill one pocket set to force a $10K 10 ball set. Epic.
  
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11-23-2008, 12:58 PM

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TAR is in whenever the guys want to do the match.

I know John's backer Gary went to KC and I think if he is in on this one it is only fair that he have the first shot at holding it in his room in Victorville, California if he wants to. We would love to do it at the Derby but scheduling something like this around the tournaments would be a nightmare. A match with this history deserves it's own showcase without a player having to worry about making a 10 AM match. We are open to whatever the guys agree on though and will make it happen.

When I talked to Danny at the Open I think his words were "I don't care where it is. I will play anywhere in the United States and I am ready to go right now."

I think John might just be playing a little hard to get right now. I bet after he thinks about it for awhile that competitor in him is going to be hard to ignore.

After two all around's the count stands:

14.1: Split sets

One Pocket: Split sets

10 Ball: Split sets

I don't care if they play another all around or just one game. There HAS TO BE A FINAL MATCH !!!!!!

If we have to get a ref involved and all the details of the game on paper before hand then so be it. Hopefully both guys can agree on a game , rules and stipulations to make this happen. Anything Chad or I can do to help just let us know.

Man I want to see this thing go off.

Justin, If Jay is not available or doesn't want to ref the match, I would offer my services. I am in Vegas and just a hop to California.

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11-23-2008, 01:00 PM

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Justin, If Jay is not available or doesn't want to ref the match, I would offer my services. I am in Vegas and just a hop to California.

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Thanks Bill.

I know you would do a great job.

Hopefully it will come together.
  
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wow - 11-23-2008, 01:04 PM

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The first match:

14.1 Race to 400 points: John wins

1 Pocket Race to 10: Danny wins (hill-hill)

10 ball Race to 30: Danny wins (30-28)

Second match about 6 months later :

14.1 Race to 400 points: Danny wins

1 Pocket Race to 10: John wins (hill-hill again)

10 ball Race to 30: John wins

Each set was for $3300 a set with the agreement that if they split the first two they would play the final set for $10,000. Both sets came down to one guy having to win a hill hill one pocket set to force a $10K 10 ball set. Epic.
Thanks very much for these details; what this shows me is that they're pretty evenly matched......I agree with those that say this match should go off and it will be supremely interesting......and yes, this is another good thing about AZB.....
  
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11-23-2008, 02:18 PM

Awesome!

Match two is history- lets just forget about it until this third one goes off. I'd hate for anything to prevent this from happening.

With TAR, Helfert, and some good commentators, this will be sweet.
  
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11-23-2008, 02:19 PM

Ref Ken Shuman (US Open, DCC and tons more) plays and lives near HardTimes in Sac. I know John likes to play there. I'm sure Ken would love to do this as long as it doesn't conflict with his other obligations.


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11-23-2008, 02:20 PM

man oh man I'd drive out there for this.
  
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11-23-2008, 04:41 PM

Please do not schedule this on the Jay Swanson dates of Feb. 7-8 at Hollywood Billiards in LA. It would be nice to figure out how to combine the two events but I just do not see how that can ahappen without going past the weekend.

This is gonna be a good one!

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