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Pay for the Wall - 01-10-2019, 11:43 AM

During his campaign in 2016, Trump outlined his plan on how to make Mexico pay for the wall.

Here it is: https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf

Why is he now demanding that it be paid for by American taxpayers, and shutting down the government to make it happen?

He clearly had a plan with specific steps laid out. Why hasn't he done any of it?

He had a fully Republican-controlled Congress for two whole years and did squat with his plan.

Oh well, what else should be expected from a lying con man?
  
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01-10-2019, 11:49 AM

Why is the onus on Mexico, solely?

There are a lotta countries south of the border that are partaking in the USA's goodness.
  
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01-10-2019, 12:04 PM

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Why is the onus on Mexico, solely?

There are a lotta countries south of the border that are partaking in the USA's goodness.
You'd need to ask Trump that question.

It was his promise, and his plan -- not mine.
  
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01-10-2019, 12:09 PM

Hasn't he recently said that he had other ways to pay for the wall?

or that he would make the military build the wall?

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01-10-2019, 12:16 PM

I dont recall Trump ever saying that Mexico would actually be writing a check to pay for the wall.


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01-10-2019, 12:22 PM

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I dont recall Trump ever saying that Mexico would actually be writing a check to pay for the wall.
Here's what he said:

"It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year."

Read the memo from his campaign.

He not only said it -- he promised it. Repeatedly.
  
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01-10-2019, 12:23 PM

We have to deal with the now.Pissing on Him don't help...
  
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01-10-2019, 12:29 PM

I understand all the lefts cries and concerns about how he said Mexico would pay but now he wants the american tax payers to pay.

But the fact of the matter is he is not pushing for us to get a wall because Mexico owes us one. But because we need one..

If we can get Mexico to pay for it great, but only a idiot would think we are waiting for Mexico to write a check before we start taking care of ourselves ANYWAY..

Typical problem of the left is refusing to take care of their own responsibilities.
  
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01-10-2019, 12:35 PM

Only an idiot would think that he would fulfill his campaign promise, his main campaign promise to build that wall?

All his voters believed this, what does that say about them?

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I understand all the lefts cries and concerns about how he said Mexico would pay but now he wants the american tax payers to pay.

But the fact of the matter is he is not pushing for us to get a wall because Mexico owes us one. But because we need one..

If we can get Mexico to pay for it great, but only a idiot would think we are waiting for Mexico to write a check before we start taking care of ourselves ANYWAY..

Typical problem of the left is refusing to take care of their own responsibilities.
  
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01-10-2019, 12:35 PM

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Here's what he said:

"It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year."

Read the memo from his campaign.

He not only said it -- he promised it. Repeatedly.
Yup. He said that.
Now where in that statement does he state that he actually expected Mexico would?

By the way.

Obama also said that "If you like your doctor. You can keep your doctor"
If you like your insurance plan you can keep your insurance plan.
The affordable health care act will on average save Americans an average 2500.00 a year.

I dont seem to recall you or anybody on the left complaining about those statements being false.
Which has proven to have done actual economic harm to US citizens.
As a matter of fact I recall you defending those statements and more during the entire time that debate raged.


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01-10-2019, 12:37 PM

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I understand all the lefts cries and concerns about how he said Mexico would pay but now he wants the american tax payers to pay.

But the fact of the matter is he is not pushing for us to get a wall because Mexico owes us one. But because we need one..

If we can get Mexico to pay for it great, but only a idiot would think we are waiting for Mexico to write a check before we start taking care of ourselves ANYWAY..

Typical problem of the left is refusing to take care of their own responsibilities.
Isn't that what he said?
Besides, not everyone here thinks that type of barrier is what is needed.
The "wall" has gone from 3 or 4 billion to 25 billion, from 2000 miles to 700 miles,
Maybe what he needs first is a straight story that they can turn down.
Not that they will, but maybe it's easier to being to negotiate from a solid spot instead
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01-10-2019, 12:41 PM

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I dont recall Trump ever saying that Mexico would actually be writing a check to pay for the wall.
What do u-spin his statement 'mexico will pay for it' to mean, then?

Did Billy Clinton write that line for him?
  
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01-10-2019, 12:43 PM

Selective recollection, deflection and unrelated allegations.

Carry on.
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Yup. He said that.
Now where in that statement does he state that he actually expected Mexico would?

By the way.

Obama also said that "If you like your doctor. You can keep your doctor"
If you like your insurance plan you can keep your insurance plan.
The affordable health care act will on average save Americans an average 2500.00 a year.

I dont seem to recall you or anybody on the left complaining about those statements being false.
Which has proven to have done actual economic harm to US citizens.
As a matter of fact I recall you defending those statements and more during the entire time that debate raged.
  
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01-10-2019, 12:45 PM

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Only an idiot would think that he would fulfill his campaign promise, his main campaign promise to build that wall?

All his voters believed this, what does that say about them?
So now our political traditions are thrown aside?!

The whole campaign process is a con job and they all con us in every way they can.
  
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01-10-2019, 12:46 PM

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What do u-spin his statement 'mexico will pay for it' to mean, then?

Did Billy Clinton write that line for him?
No spin.
He never defined specifically how Mexico would pay for it in the end.

For instance.

Remember in the past how indentured servitude was supposed to work.
Indentured servants worked off their debt.

There are other means to make people and countries pay for something.


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