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Question Break cue stuff, again. - 11-13-2019, 12:41 AM

What is the best wood for a break cue shaft, maple, purple heart, etc.?

How about the joint? Is the Uni Loc a good choice or another all metal joint?

Seems like every one has their preference's on weight and tip diameter.
  
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11-13-2019, 01:10 AM

Only things that really matter:

Hitting cb accurately
Stroke speed


Everything else is just another:

This group likes chocolate but, the other group likes vanilla.

EDIT:

Instead of thinking you don't break HARD enough, try to think instead of trying to break FAST enough.

Most....but not all by any means, use a break cue that's a little lighter than their playing cue.

My playing cue is ~18.60 ounces, 60" long @12.4 mm with a G2 soft tip.

My breaker is a BK Rush, it's 58" @12.75 mm and weighs 17 ounces with the stock tip.

Try adding and taking weight away from your break cue and see how it changes your abilities to control the cb on the break.

Then do the same thing and see how it changes "how fast" or "how slow" your stroke speed becomes.

I believe you will see as speed increases, control will decrease.

Find what you need....then you will know what to buy.

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Do you know anyone like the "wannabe" boxer in the pool world?

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11-13-2019, 01:12 AM

What do you have now?

Why are you changing?


I knew a fellow that thought he was a good boxer because he was in a position to befriend a lot of "professional boxers". It cost him azzwhippens till he realized he wasn't what he thought/wished he was.

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I had a phenolic ferrule and a hard tip of some kind put on a Diveney 12.5 shaft and use it with one of my Diveney radial pin butts.

I was looking at going to a 13.5 mm shaft and a White Diamond tip with a purple heart shaft and butt.

I am a mediocre breaker at best, just can't hit them hard.
  
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11-13-2019, 02:01 AM

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I had a phenolic ferrule and a hard tip of some kind put on a Diveney 12.5 shaft and use it with one of my Diveney radial pin butts.

I was looking at going to a 13.5 mm shaft and a White Diamond tip with a purple heart shaft and butt.

I am a mediocre breaker at best, just can't hit them hard.
If you don't mind me asking, what's mediocre about your break? Is it your accuracy? Is it your stroke speed? Is it something to do with your stance or bridge? What technique do you use, is it all shoulder or do you incorporate your shoulder, hips etc...etc into your break?

BTW, do you have any physical issues such as back problems?

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11-13-2019, 02:24 AM

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I had a phenolic ferrule and a hard tip of some kind put on a Diveney 12.5 shaft and use it with one of my Diveney radial pin butts.

I was looking at going to a 13.5 mm shaft and a White Diamond tip with a purple heart shaft and butt.

I am a mediocre breaker at best, just can't hit them hard.
I know you don't want to bear it but if you don't break that hard, carbon fiber shaft the way to go due to the energy transfer.


  
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11-13-2019, 02:57 AM

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I know you don't want to bear it but if you don't break that hard, carbon fiber shaft the way to go due to the energy transfer.
CF shafts do seem to move the cb much easier.

I like them for 8, 9, 10 and AR unless I can get away with a medium to soft break.

For 1hole, 14.1 and similar games, I use my playing cue.

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11-13-2019, 04:06 AM

I would think Dymondwood
As a jump cue for sure the best for me
  
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11-13-2019, 04:26 AM

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What is the best wood for a break cue shaft, maple, purple heart, etc.?

How about the joint? Is the Uni Loc a good choice or another all metal joint?

Seems like every one has their preference's on weight and tip diameter.
Don't know about best but i use a $100 J&J wood-screw joint j/b with a WDUltra tip. Works great. 13mm(or a tad larger) is best for breaking.
  
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Dymonwood - 11-13-2019, 05:22 AM

I have a Dymonwood shaft that has a Uni Loc joint, I could get a 30" butt with a Uni Loc and try it.

I can rack tight. I have a very good wooden rack, a Delta rack, Magic rack and Accu rack.

It is probably my control, the faster I hit, the worse I hit where I am aiming. Crap.
  
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11-13-2019, 05:30 AM

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I have a Dymonwood shaft that has a Uni Loc joint, I could get a 30" butt with a Uni Loc and try it.

I can rack tight. I have a very good wooden rack, a Delta rack, Magic rack and Accu rack.

It is probably my control, the faster I hit, the worse I hit where I am aiming. Crap.
To be honest, you shouldn't worry about a new cue.

I'm not perfect either but, it sounds like you need to work on your stance, grip and bridge hand etc...etc.....everything that leads to a straight stroke.

After you get ^^^^^^^^^ in check as best you can, evaluate your break again. You may find you don't need a new break cue.

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11-13-2019, 07:15 AM

It's all about technique. Not woods, carbons shafts, tips, nor cue weight.
Get the Predator break speed app for your phone, find out for yourself.
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11-13-2019, 07:40 AM

I cant wait for my dymondwood breaker to be ready
Seriously hate waiting

My players sp breaks very good with a tight rack and my big frame lol
Its a wood to wood joint and has brass inserts
Plays jam up

I just want the dymondwood cause its looks incredible and it just might break a lil better iuno, well find out

Im keeping that sp though as a player,


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11-13-2019, 07:45 AM

Local player thats well known
Uses a regular house cue and breaks like a monster
So it really dont matter what you use, your accuracy is far more important imo


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11-13-2019, 07:56 AM

Just don't get caught up in the hype of thinking you must have a $700 BK Rush to have a good break. Something like a purple heart or diamond wood shaft combined with a white diamond tip will perform as good as most people need


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