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Fox News sows confusion - 12-31-2009, 08:42 AM

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The push is on by the liberal socialist propaganda board of the democratic party, it is in full speed ahead with their attack on anyone who would critizise their wrong for America ideas!

CNN propaganda wing of the dnc had a woman with a on line degree holding psychiatrist explain how Rush L and his 20 million listeners were bullies! Now you have this democrat nit wit Rep. Alan Grayson declaring the republicans and fox news the enemy of America! More extremist behavior by the communist administration in charge. Talk about being unable to hold any position of authority then this guy is the posters child for irresponsibility!



Since the Obama administration began accusing Fox News of being "a wing of the Republican Party," the war of words has intensified.

The latest counterattack from Fox's defenders is the claim that the White House is putting Fox on a Nixon-like enemies list, a list which Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) describes as also including the insurance companies and the US Chamber of Commerce.

Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL), however, believes that an enemies list is exactly where Fox belongs.

"Fox News and their Republican collaborators are the enemy of America," Grayson told MSNBC's Ed Schultz on Wednesday. "They're the enemy of anybody who cares about health care in this country, the enemy of anybody who cares about educating their children, the enemy of anybody who wants energy independence or anything good for this country. And certainly the enemy of peace, there's no doubt about that. They are the enemy."

Grayson thinks that the White House is doing exactly the right thing in going after Fox, because "what you do with a bully is you confront the bully and the bully backs down."

Video of this elected socialist rep who would be unworthy of being dog catcher.
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s the fascists in the U.S. are on the verge of establishing a 3rd party, confusion around the definition serves their interests. The use of "socialism" as an expletive & equating "left" & "right" also sows confusion, which serves the interests of the fascists.

Fascism has been precisely defined by Dimitroff & Togliatti , German & Italian freedom fighters in the leadership of the struggle against fascism as follows;

"Fascism is the totalitarian rule of the most racist, nationalist, reactionary sectors of finance capital."

Thus, Nazis, neo-nazis, KKK, Aryan Nation, & other white supremacist groups would clearly qualify.All of these groups call for the genocide of various groups in arguments grounded in racist & anti-semitic ideology.

Socialism calls for the transfer of the means of production to the working class to be DEMOCRATICALLY administered.

Obviously, under the rule of Stalin and Stalinist dictators, socialism was not implemented.

There are those who explain the failure of socialism as inevitable because of negative assumptions about "human nature." For people like Konrad Lorenz et. al. greed & aggression are hard wired into the human psyche.

On the other hand, people like Joe Slovo, in his essay "Has Socialism Failed?" provide a historical explanation for the failures to achieve socialism. Like Einstein in his essay, "Why Socialism?, Slovo concludes that socialism is possible & preferable to capitalism.

Both essays can be retrieved on Google.

Obama

The legitimate criticism of Obama has also been a source of confusion as he is labeled a "socialist" "Marxist"... despite the fact that he is surrounded by Wall Street & Ivy League cronies who have fashioned an economic policy which is merely Keynesian corporate welfare.

His foreign policy merely serves U.S. imperialism & profiteering by the military industrial complex. Thus his foreign policy is indistinguishable from that of his predecessor.

FDR- FDR's policies were more progressive, but he was not a socialist. He merely developed safety nets as concessions to protect capitalism from protests by industrial unions, populists, socialists, an incipient Civil Rights movement, & the Communist Party U.S.A., which had 250,000 members at the time.

General Smedley D. Butler thwarted a fascist coup attempt against FDR, thus labeling FDR as a fascist also sows confusion.
  
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12-31-2009, 09:59 AM

Enough of the myths Marv.

Georgi Dimitrov was a Bulgarian Marxist.Palmiro Togliatti was an Italian Marxist who was attending and spent the war years hiding in Moscow with uncle Joe after fleeing France. He did not display any "RESISTANCE" to Nazi ideology until Hitler invaded the USSR. Prior to that he was a willing collaborator in the destabilization of the Spanish democracy, leading to the fascist Franco taking power.

They both tripped all over themselves the rest of their lives blaming Hitler for following the same anti-semitic policies they praise Stalin for following.

Eventually Dimitrov died in the USSR after serving as PM of Bulgaris, while Togliatti died in the USSR on vacation.

The way you cling to this definition, held by supporters of a Marxist regime practicing genocide, as evidence that Marxism is somehow radically different from National Socialism in the end is quite surprising.

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Question Abraham Lincoln Brigade. - 12-31-2009, 03:44 PM

[QUOTE=LWW;2199810]"the fascist Franco taking power."

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that's right i am back ! I can see that the usual wingnuts have not matured in their craniums . They still spout the same drivel and try to put the scope on laughable topics (acorn- etc ) instead of the topics that affect peoples everyday lives and how the govt. should handle solving the real problems ( health care for all - getting our troops home - jobs - education for all etc ) lww is still talking inside a reagan-rush beck bubble . One good thing i have noticed is that there are more posters that voice an "opinion " that is contrary to the righties and that is a good thing . I still do not know what i did to get banned . I asked but the rupert murdochs that i guess run this site would not tell me why . Is this the freedom of speech that lww and his apostles espouse ? Finally to my fellow left leaning ( informed ) posters . Don't let these wingers bully you . You are not out numbered and you will never be without the truth .
  
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"silent majority" - 12-31-2009, 11:36 PM

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that's right i am back ! I can see that the usual wingnuts have not matured in their craniums . They still spout the same drivel and try to put the scope on laughable topics (acorn- etc ) instead of the topics that affect peoples everyday lives and how the govt. should handle solving the real problems ( health care for all - getting our troops home - jobs - education for all etc ) lww is still talking inside a reagan-rush beck bubble . One good thing i have noticed is that there are more posters that voice an "opinion " that is contrary to the righties and that is a good thing . I still do not know what i did to get banned . I asked but the rupert murdochs that i guess run this site would not tell me why . Is this the freedom of speech that lww and his apostles espouse ? Finally to my fellow left leaning ( informed ) posters . Don't let these wingers bully you . You are not out numbered and you will never be without the truth .
I don't quote Dick Nixon very often, but those who agree with us are obviously a "silent majority."
  
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Question reread posts - 12-31-2009, 11:39 PM

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Enough of the myths Marv.

Georgi Dimitrov was a Bulgarian Marxist.Palmiro Togliatti was an Italian Marxist who was attending and spent the war years hiding in Moscow with uncle Joe after fleeing France. He did not display any "RESISTANCE" to Nazi ideology until Hitler invaded the USSR. Prior to that he was a willing collaborator in the destabilization of the Spanish democracy, leading to the fascist Franco taking power.

They both tripped all over themselves the rest of their lives blaming Hitler for following the same anti-semitic policies they praise Stalin for following.

Eventually Dimitrov died in the USSR after serving as PM of Bulgaris, while Togliatti died in the USSR on vacation.

The way you cling to this definition, held by supporters of a Marxist regime practicing genocide, as evidence that Marxism is somehow radically different from National Socialism in the end is quite surprising.

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that's right i am back ! I can see that the usual wingnuts have not matured in their craniums . They still spout the same drivel and try to put the scope on laughable topics (acorn- etc ) instead of the topics that affect peoples everyday lives and how the govt. should handle solving the real problems ( health care for all - getting our troops home - jobs - education for all etc ) lww is still talking inside a reagan-rush beck bubble . One good thing i have noticed is that there are more posters that voice an "opinion " that is contrary to the righties and that is a good thing . I still do not know what i did to get banned . I asked but the rupert murdochs that i guess run this site would not tell me why . Is this the freedom of speech that lww and his apostles espouse ? Finally to my fellow left leaning ( informed ) posters . Don't let these wingers bully you . You are not out numbered and you will never be without the truth .
Welcome back.
I imagine that LWW will tell you he intervened on your behalf and that's why you're back.
Dub tells me he's got tremendous influence with the mods
and he pretty much dictates who stays and who goes.

I don't know whether that's true or not, but I can't imagine Dub creating any fabrications, can you?
  
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Dub tells me he's got tremendous influence with the mods
and he pretty much dictates who stays and who goes.

I don't know whether that's true or not, but I can't imagine Dub creating any fabrications, can you?
I do ... and that's among the largest lies you have ever told here and you know it.

What I said was that you PM'ed me begging for me to speak well of you when you were banned, and I said a few good words about you. A decision that I have since come to regret.

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Cool 01-01-2010, 01:10 PM

Thanks hondo. lww will never admit anything that shows his real lack of knowledge . My mom suffered from alzheimers before her death and i can recognize the onset in people . So we should all give lww a break when he has one of his frequent memory lapses .
  
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that's right i am back ! I can see that the usual wingnuts have not matured in their craniums . They still spout the same drivel and try to put the scope on laughable topics (acorn- etc ) instead of the topics that affect peoples everyday lives and how the govt. should handle solving the real problems ( health care for all - getting our troops home - jobs - education for all etc )
Acorn, et al, IS how the govt is handling the real problems, including health care, jobs, education for all (lol), etc.

It is now up to the statists to defend the continuing "success" of THEIR failures.

Acorn is a corupt mob. Health care is a business issue that is prohibited by the rulebook from becoming a govt issue. Jobs come ONLY from mutual exchanges. Getting the troops home requires less socialism in warfare, not more. Education for all requires honesty, not coercion.

As liberty becomes more integrated (again) into society:

health costs will plummet as services improve and cures abound,

jobs will be rampant as businesses fight for necessary employees (fight as in pay more than competitors pay),

education will once again be part of schools' goals, as this is what parents and businesses want and need,

the numbers of troops needed will plummet to near null as peace spreads from its sole origin: liberty.

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