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Dutch to Use Body Scans on U.S. Flights, Call Bomb Attempt 'Amateurish' - 12-30-2009, 06:15 AM

Wednesday, December 30, 2009
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THE HAGUE, Netherlands The Netherlands will immediately begin using full body scanners for flights heading to the United States to prevent future terrorist attacks like the Christmas Day attempt by a young Nigerian.

Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, 23, managed to board a Northwest Airlines flight to Detroit from Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport carrying explosives but failed to successfully detonate them.

In a preliminary report, the Dutch government on Wednesday said the plan to blow up the Detroit-bound aircraft was professional but called its execution "amateurish."

Interior Minister Guusje Ter Horst said Abdulmutallab apparently assembled the explosive device, including 80 grams of PETN, in the aircraft toilet, then planned to detonate it with a syringe of chemicals.

"It is not exaggerating to say the world has escaped a disaster," Ter Horst told a news conference.

Abdulmutallab arrived in Amsterdam on Friday from Lagos, Nigeria. After a layover of less than three hours, he passed through a security check at the gate in Amsterdam, including a hand baggage scan and a metal detector.

"No suspicious matters which would give reason to classify the person involved as a high-risk passenger were identified during the security check," Ter Horst said.
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Obama Botches Response to Another Terror Threat - 12-30-2009, 06:18 AM

By Andrea Tantaros
Updated December 29, 2009

As Obama's attempts to appease jihadists, it's clear the strategy of talking nicely isn't working

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Another terror threat, another botched response from the Obama administration.

Last Friday's attempted attack to blow up an airplane en route to Detroit from Amsterdam has bolstered what we've known for a long time: that stopping the bad guys is so far outside the worldview of the president and his staff it's downright scary.

In the hours that followed the attack, Obama foolishly called the attempt an "isolated incident."

That's like Tiger Woods calling Rachel Uchitel an isolated incident.

We now know that the suspect had been in Yemen just days before the attack and that a regional Al Qaeda group has claimed responsibility for it.

Obama appointee Janet Napolitano, the Homeland Security chief, who earlier in the year referred to terrorist attacks as "man-caused disaster" and said that we weren't in a War on Terror, praised the system saying, "It worked."

No, it didn't.

She quickly and bizarrely tried to back-peddle the next day insisting that the events following the failed attack unfolded as they should have, but allowing the terrorist to board the plane with explosives clearly "signaled a failure of the system."

Someone should tell Napolitano that her method for measuring success is very strange.

Rep. Peter Hoekstra said it best: "Success is stopping these attacks, not responding to them."

However, rather than demand answers, Congressional Democrats are on defense while they lambaste Republicans for blocking an Obama's pick to head the Transportation Security Administration.

Forget playing politics about the head baggage screener who wouldn't have stopped the attack if he were in place. We've seen what has happened when the baggage of the Obama administration isn't adequately screened.

Most recently the foreign minister of Yemen said that there are likely 200 to 300 terrorists in Yemen plotting future attacks. Why aren't we water-boarding the Christmas Day bomber for information on who these men are? Guess we're more worried about getting him legal representation.

While our president attempts to appease those who have declared a radical jihad on U.S. and elsewhere, let the Christmas Day attack be a sign that the strategy of talking nicely isn't working.

What will it take for the Obama administration and Congressional Democrats to get tough on terror before more people die?

People are going to get killed if we don't change this pre-9/11 mentality. This isn't about politics, it's about reality -- cold one that people want to destroy us. Let this be another wake up call to the president before the only man caused disaster we're talking about is his own naivete.

Andrea Tantaros is a conservative columnist. Follow her on Twitter: @AndreaTantaros.


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12-30-2009, 07:12 AM

If the Dutch spokesman called it amateurish, then what did the terrorist do wrong in applying the syringe of chemicals? All I've heard was "it didn't make good contact with the PETN". Were we just a drop or two of contact away from this plane going down or was there more to it?
  
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If the Dutch spokesman called it amateurish, then what did the terrorist do wrong in applying the syringe of chemicals? All I've heard was "it didn't make good contact with the PETN". Were we just a drop or two of contact away from this plane going down or was there more to it?
Apparently you have surmized correctly, the chemicals applied correctly would have caused an explosion which undoubtedly would have ruptured the cabin, and we all know what that would have become...........


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Administration Rejects Calls to Reconsider Guantanamo Closure Plan - 12-30-2009, 08:10 AM

This is a very naive and dangerous bunch currently running this country.

The Obama administration is pushing back against calls to halt or delay closing the Guantanamo Bay prison in light of the failed Christmas Day terror attack, suggesting that shutting down the prison will undermine terrorist recruitment in the very network that claimed responsibility for last week's plot.

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The Obama administration is pushing back against calls to halt or delay closing the Guantanamo Bay prison in light of the failed Christmas Day terror attack, suggesting that shutting down the prison will undermine terrorist recruitment in the very network that claimed responsibility for last week's plot.

Administration officials also assured lawmakers that they will use the utmost caution in transferring any detainees to other countries, following concerns that it's unsafe to send the dozens of Yemenis held there back to their home country -- which has emerged as a tinderbox of extremist activity.

Seniors officials told Fox News that nobody in the administration is reconsidering President Obama's plan to close Guantanamo Bay. Though the closure probably will not occur until 2011 due to a series of setbacks, officials said locking down Guantanamo is still in the "national security interest."

"The detention facility at Guantanamo has been used by Al Qaeda as a rallying cry and recruiting tool -- including its affiliate Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. As our military leaders have recognized, closing the detention facility at Guantanamo is a national security imperative," one senior official told Fox News.

Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula has claimed responsibility for the attempted bombing of a Detroit-bound Northwest Airlines flight last week. Sources say suspect Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab spent time in Yemen and may have been groomed for the mission there.

These developments, combined with Yemen's abysmal record on keeping terror suspects in prison, have led some lawmakers to urge Obama to rethink his Guantanamo plans or at least stop transferring prisoners to Yemen or other Arabian Peninsula countries.

"Given the security situation in Yemen and the failure of the Yemeni government to secure high-value prisoners in the past, we believe that any such transfers would be highly unwise and ill-considered," Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz.; Joe Lieberman, I-Conn.; and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., wrote in a letter to the president Tuesday. "The December 25 attack is only the latest in a growing list of terrorist plots that have been traced back to AQAP in Yemen."

The administration recently ordered six Guantanamo detainees sent back to Yemen. This raises concerns, since Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula is led by two former Guantanamo detainees who reportedly were released to Saudi Arabia from Guantanamo in 2007 and were set free after completing a controversial "rehabilitation program."

All the suspects convicted of being involved in the 2000 attack on the USS Cole have also either been released by Yemeni authorities or managed to escape in a jailbreak.

But a senior administration official said Tuesday that it continues to review each prisoner's case with a "fine-tooth comb."

"Our policy is, as consistent with the law, that we'll make transfers, we'll notify Congress of the transfers, that we'll make transfers consistent with our national security interests. And we believe that each of those that we have done so far enhances our national security," the official said.

Fox News' Major Garrett contributed to this report.


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questions for Obama - 12-31-2009, 11:59 PM

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If banks can clear millions of checks in a day & if a stock trade can be executed in a fraction of a minute, then why can't the U.S. interface its various data bases?

Furthermore, is the U.S. too arrogant to use data from other intelligence agencies around the world?

Israel has hardened cockpits in its commercial planes & the doors are locked until the plane reaches its destination & passengers have disembarked. Why can't the US. do the same?

Why do the our commercial pilots leave the door open to chat with the stewardesses?

Israel has armed sky marshals on every flight? If U.S. airlines are too cheap to do this, then they could keep a data base of people with military training & security clearances, match it with passenger lists, & if a match is found, deputize the person & offer them a free fare in exchange for their service?

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FAROUK said ALLAH'S plan for him was to embark on a bloody jihad while GOD'S plan was for him to have a wienie roast


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01-01-2010, 01:18 AM

Personally I think it should be up to the country of where the flight is landing as to what security measures should be taken regardless of where it is. If that nation doesn't want to go along well then no flights will go there.

If say Denmark says no, but France says yes then people flying from Denmark to France to get to the U.S. will have to go through security measures to do so.


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If banks can clear millions of checks in a day & if a stock trade can be executed in a fraction of a minute, then why can't the U.S. interface its various data bases?

Furthermore, is the U.S. too arrogant to use data from other intelligence agencies around the world?

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Israel has armed sky marshals on every flight? If U.S. airlines are too cheap to do this, then they could keep a data base of people with military training & security clearances, match it with passenger lists, & if a match is found, deputize the person & offer them a free fare in exchange for their service?

Will the man who jumped the Nigerian terrorist get some extra frequent flier miles?

I'm sorry, but that is more dangerous than no security. Arming someone on an aircraft with no dedicated specialized training to deal with an oboard threat assessment would more likely bring down a plane than our current security/lack of security would. Just because someone has a security clearance or is/was in the military doesn't automatically make them a good choice to assess and handle an onboard threat by any means. But, I will give you credit for making a creative attempt at a viable solution to the minimal security problem on board our flights. Keep them coming.

Back to the main thread... body scanning by the Dutch means there will be a lot more arrests for attempted international smuggling of hashish out of Amsterdam. Hmmm.. There is a downside It is amazing what some people will cram into their underwear as non-declared souveniers to bring back to the states.


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