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05-17-2019, 06:12 AM

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Regarding folks clueless or misinformed about Straight Pool (my lifelong favorite game) one way I've found *very* useful whenever a non-player onlooker, or a beginner who's genuinely curious about what's involved, is to always first ask them if they enjoyed the "Hustler" movie. Unfailingly they've seen it and immediately state what a great film it is and how skillfully the Newman and Gleason characters appeared to be playing -- rack-after-rack -- for hours . . . and when asked, they suddenly remember that periodically they heard "That's 125 . . . Game" loudly announced by the rack man.

Connecting them to the movie seems to subtly trigger their remembrance of at least three prime characteristics of the game that moviegoers were witnessing and enjoying -- (innocent of any real 14.1 knowledge): (a) the continuous nature of the racks; (b) the accumulation of points . . . one at a time; and (c) the sustained excellence required to reach that figurative 125 for a win each time.

By always bringing up the movie, I've -- in a friendly way-- brought many folks from the point of being totally "clueless" (or grossly misinformed) to being actually eager to learn much more about the Straight Pool game that was repeatedly referred to in the film they liked so much.

In my experience, even the notion and purpose of 14.1 "Safety" play when no realistic shot was available, was readily grasped by almost all non-players in the audience seeing the film then or now, with no on-screen explanation required.

Try the above correlative technique and you'll have the genuine pleasure of seeing piqued-curiosity, sudden remembrance/awareness, and more than a few light bulb moments. Pleasures that sustain anyone teaching any worthwhile endeavor.

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05-17-2019, 11:35 AM

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I have a 14.1 "that's how I run" sticker on my car. I have yet to have anyone understand what it means.
Mort Sahl once humorously observed that "Bumper stickers publicly announce the social neediness of the car owner and the attention span of the average reader."

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05-17-2019, 12:03 PM

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I've seen them both in person. In my limited experience, I would put them in the other order.
in your limited experience , youre prabably dead right , mr jewett .
  
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05-17-2019, 12:16 PM

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The only significance that name brings to me is that his father probably knew San Jose Dick.


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05-17-2019, 02:10 PM

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Agreed on that. Willie wasn't terribly interested in setting an unapproachable high run record. He was, quite clearly, a better player than Babe Cranfield, who ran over 700 twice, with 768 his best. Had Mosconi been as obsessed with a high run as Cranfield or Schmidt, there's little doubt in my mind that the record would be well over 1,000.
I'll somewhat agree with you, not sure about over 1,000. I will relate a conversation a few of us had with Luther Lassiter during the first legends tournament, Atlantic City, 1982. One of us asked Luther who he thought the best straight pool player was. Luther replied, "Mosconi won the most tournaments, but the one with the most knowledge, was Cranfield, but don't tell him I said so." Luther came in third in that tournament.

Great discussion, and to keep it relevant, there is a difference between practice and tournament. Tournaments, I would give it to Mosconi, with Sigel, Mizerak, and Lassiter close. Practice and knowledge, nobody comes close to Cranfield.

I hope John does it, because I'm sick of hearing about the record of 526 on a smaller table. It would be good to have a record beyond the rest, on today's standard table. If so, it might make the Guiness Book of World Records have to do an edit. Other than that though, it won't make much news media.

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05-17-2019, 05:43 PM

John Schmidt has now run in the 400's 7 times:

490 -- 5/15/2019 at Easy Street Billiards in Monterey, CA. Ended with a miss on a difficult break shot for the 36th rack.

464 -- 4/16/2019 at Bull Shooters Billiards & Sports Bar in Phonenix, AZ. Ended with a miss on a long, nearly straight shot after the break shot (made 2 balls) in the 34th rack.

434 -- 12/3/2018 at Easy Street Billiards. Ended with a scratch (a massé-like turn of the cue ball) on the break shot for the 32nd rack.

421 -- 5/9/2019 at Easy Street Billiards. Ended on a jacked-up miss of the 2nd ball of the 31st rack.

407 -- 11/(27±2)/2019 at Easy Street Billiards

403 -- 10/13/2007 at Q-Master Billiards in Virginia Beach, VA

400 -- 6/28/2004 at Hidden Pocket Billiards in Milton, FL

[If anyone is certain of any other details on the 407, 403, or 400, please let us know. And let me know of any errors in the above info.]

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05-17-2019, 06:19 PM

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John Schmidt has now run in the 400's 7 times:

490 -- 5/15/2019 at Easy Street Billiards in Monterey, CA. Ended with a miss on a difficult break shot for the 36th rack.

464 -- 4/16/2019 at Bull Shooters Billiards & Sports Bar in Phonenix, AZ. Ended with a miss on a long, nearly straight shot after the break shot (made 2 balls) in the 34th rack.

434 -- 12/3/2018 at Easy Street. Ended with a scratch (a massé-like turn of the cue ball) on the break shot for the 32nd rack.

421 -- 5/9/2019 at Easy Street Billiards. Ended on a jacked-up miss of the 2nd ball of the 31st rack.

407 -- 11/(27±2)/2019 at Easy Street Billiards

403 -- 10/13/2007 at Q-Master Billiards in Virginia Beach, VA

400 -- 6/28/2004 at Hidden Pocket Billiards in Milton, FL.

[If anyone is certain of any other details on the 407, 403, or 400, please let us know. And let me know of any errors in the above info.]
He truly is Mr. 400--what an impressive list and I noticed the 10 year gap when he focused on rotation pool.
  
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05-31-2019, 12:54 AM

John Schmidt has now "proof watched" his record run from earlier this week, confirming that it was 626. So here's a list of all 8 of his 400+ runs:

626 -- 5/27/2019 at Easy Street Billiards in Monterrey, CA. Ended with a miss on a combination shot after making 10 balls in the 45th rack.

490 -- 5/15/2019 at Easy Street Billiards. Ended with a miss on a difficult break shot for the 36th rack.

464 -- 4/16/2019 at Bull Shooters Billiards & Sports Bar in Phonenix, AZ. Ended with a miss on a long, nearly straight shot after the break shot (made 2 balls) in the 34th rack.

434 -- 12/3/2018 at Easy Street Billiards. Ended with a scratch (a massé-like turn of the cue ball) on the break shot for the 32nd rack.

421 -- 5/9/2019 at Easy Street Billiards. Ended on a jacked-up miss of the 2nd ball of the 31st rack.

407 -- 11/(27±2)/2019 at Easy Street Billiards

403 -- 10/13/2007 at Q-Master Billiards in Virginia Beach, VA

400 -- 6/28/2004 at Hidden Pocket Billiards in Milton, FL

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05-31-2019, 12:57 AM

I think he's gonna break Mosconi's record. I can just sense it.


"He knew what those jubilant crowds did not know, but could have learned from books; that the plague bacillus never dies or disappears for good...and that perhaps the day would come when, for the bane and the enlightening of men, it would rouse up its rats again and send them forth to die in a happy city."
  
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05-31-2019, 01:10 AM

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I think he's gonna break Mosconi's record. I can just sense it.
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Huh?

Julian
Say what??


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05-31-2019, 01:52 AM

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Say what??
You don't know the record has been broken or are you trolling?

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