I will check your mathing when ini get home.
Best way to roll forward just a bit on longer shots?
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I will check your mathing when ini get home.
Sorry so say, but that's not a stun-run-through. It's a normal follow shot.
I only know of stun-run-through.
But yes, your description is right: try a stop shot at 1/2 to 3/4 of the distance, then the CB starts to roll after that again.
Please use a proper instruction video for that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAL3tqqUNQw
I have started to do that more and more for these type of shots - accuracy has somewhat increased.
Cheerio,
M
The terminology for these things is still a little fluid, but I'd say it's all about what the CB is doing when it reaches the OB...
- if the CB is fully rolling (no sliding), it's normal follow
- if the CB is partially sliding with some forward rotation, it's stun-run-through
Both outcomes can be produced with more than one stroke speed and tip height - for instance, any hit from just above center to about 3/4 of maximum top will make the CB slide at least a little (more if hit firmly). It seems to me the stroke described above could produce a partially sliding ball at contact.
pj
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Slight Follow
The way I shoot these shots is to aim for a stop shot. Get the speed in your arm for a dead center stop shot and then raise the butt of the cue up a little (how much depends on your stroke and the conditions), and shoot the shot. The added weight of the raised stick and/or the slight hop drifts the cue ball forward just a little.
The way I shoot these shots is to aim for a stop shot. Get the speed in your arm for a dead center stop shot and then raise the butt of the cue up a little (how much depends on your stroke and the conditions), and shoot the shot. The added weight of the raised stick and/or the slight hop drifts the cue ball forward just a little.
Low and soft is a "drag shot" to me. Players seem to get in trouble hitting too hard, compromising the backspin or getting the opposite, draw on a shot where follow through impact is desired.
I ended up with closer to 1:4, cb: ob.
It was weird, shooting an ob to the far rail. Prob a decent skill to improve upon.
If I lose , I don't ever want it to be because the table rolled off on me again.
Been there ,done that
I don't care if I miss shape by 3 table lengths, I'm not slow rollin, anything.
Been there ,done that
I don't care if I miss shape by 3 table lengths, I'm not slow rollin, anything.
I think the ratio will be larger if the balls are dirty and smaller if the cue ball is heavy. For short shots it's important to remember that the cue ball starts a ball back from the object ball's location.
Another related rule of thumb for one pocket is that if a ball is between the side pockets, a full-ball bank to your pocket the long way will leave the cue ball frozen to the far cushion. (But this depends a little on how springy the cushions are.)
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Or, it might be the object ball. I have an object ball that I can get to roll around a full-ball obscruction. You can't always blame RKC.
It's a matter of personal preference of course, but I'd be wary of trying to play pocket speed from this distance. I'm going to set this situation up the next time I practice to try the various options a few times each to see which one I can do most consistently.
It was enjoyable to play with myself in the basement.
Might even do it again tonight!!!!
Learning draw-drag is essential for these types of shots. :thumbup:
Scott Lee
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Draw-drag shots are hit at all speeds...not just "low and soft". It is a stroke shot that must be mastered at all speeds and distances to be a great player.
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And I'll add that watching the whole che/Mills match, simeng hit a very large %of her shots in the manner we discuss.
Does that mean your CB followed more like 1 1/4 diamonds with a pocket speed hit?
pj
chgo
Agreed. It's a shot that requires practice. Oddly enough, I've always called this stroke "drag follow" but others call it "drag draw".
I slow roll a stop shot. Just a bit less stop and a bit less power.