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So why are the Proud Boys not being labeled as Domestic Terror Groups?
They are being found guilty in court. Sort of a Nazi thing to do to criminalize those
that oppose your terror isn't it?

Proud Boys Convicted In NY Beatdown As Trump Calls For Labeling Targets A Terror Group

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Two members of the right-wing extremist Proud Boys were convicted Monday in a mob attack on four anti-fascist activists that was captured on videotape on Manhattan’s Upper East Side.

Jurors in the State Supreme Court in Manhattan convicted Maxwell Hare, 27, of Pennsylvania, and John Kinsman, 32, of New Jersey, of attempted gang assault, attempted assault and riot in an attack that followed a speech by Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes last year at the nearby Metropolitan Republican Club.

“As violent extremism rises in America, a Manhattan jury has declared in one voice that New Yorkers will not tolerate mob violence in our own backyard,” Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. said in a statement after the verdict.

“These defendants transformed a quiet residential street into the site of a battle royale, kicking and beating four individuals in a brutal act of political violence.”

Prosecutors referred to McInnes as a “hatemonger” and said that violence was an innate part of the group. Ten Proud Boys disciples were arrested following the attack.

Proud Boys members can be seen on a videotape (above) racing to the scene where the October attack occurred and shouting to one another: “Proud Boys, are you ready?” An unidentified victim is then viciously kicked and stomped on the ground as the Proud Boys members yell “faggot” as police arrive.

The convictions follow by just two days President Donald Trump’s threat to label the anti-fascists, or “antifa” — not the Proud Boys — as an “organization of terror.” Proud Boys leaders and former Infowars staffer Joe Biggs, who organized a protest against antifa Saturday in Portland, Oregon, crowed that Trump had taken the side of the right-wing extremists.

Hare and Kinsman could each face up to 15 years in prison on the counts. They’re scheduled to be sentenced in October.

No one in antifa, whose members are anonymous, stepped forward to file a complaint with police in the Manhattan assault.

Nor did they provide information to investigators when questioned. But witness accounts and videotapes taken by journalists, as well as from a surveillance camera in a nearby building, were used to convict the men.

One witness who cooperated with law enforcement authorities was the target of death threats..

Members of the Proud Boys initially claimed the attack was self-defense and that they were ambushed by the anti-fascists. A video showed a black-masked member of the antifa group throwing a small water bottle at the Proud Boys, which missed.

But a building surveillance video from another angle, obtained by The New York Times, showed that the bottle was thrown as Proud Boys charged antifa members for the attack.

“Their attack was vicious, disproportionate and, most important, unnecessary,” prosecutor Joshua Steinglass said in closing arguments, the Times reported.

Because antifa members did not cooperate with police, prosecutors could only charge the defendants with attempted assault, rather than assault, which requires evidence of injury, according to the Times.

Seven other members of Proud Boys have been convicted on various charges in connection with the brawl, including disorderly conduct and riot, and have been sentenced to five days of community service to 10 months in jail. One other case is pending.

The all-male Proud Boys organization— which describes its members as “Western chauvinists” — has been characterized as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for its spread of white nationalism, misogyny and Islamophobia. The group has vowed to return monthly to Portland to face off against antifa members there.

Portland’s Democratic mayor, Ted Wheeler, accused Biggs of using the threat to return to “feed that sense of fear” in the nation that is “aimed predominantly at women and people of color and immigrants.”

Wheeler added: “I want to be very clear: We do not want him here in my city, period.”

The mayor also blasted Trump’s rhetoric in the matter as “not helpful.”



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08-20-2019, 02:27 AM

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So why are the Proud Boys not being labeled as Domestic Terror Groups?
They are being found guilty in court. Sort of a Nazi thing to do to criminalize those
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Proud Boys Convicted In NY Beatdown As Trump Calls For Labeling Targets A Terror Group

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Two members of the right-wing extremist Proud Boys were convicted Monday in a mob attack on four anti-fascist activists that was captured on videotape on Manhattan’s Upper East Side.

Jurors in the State Supreme Court in Manhattan convicted Maxwell Hare, 27, of Pennsylvania, and John Kinsman, 32, of New Jersey, of attempted gang assault, attempted assault and riot in an attack that followed a speech by Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes last year at the nearby Metropolitan Republican Club.

“As violent extremism rises in America, a Manhattan jury has declared in one voice that New Yorkers will not tolerate mob violence in our own backyard,” Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. said in a statement after the verdict.

“These defendants transformed a quiet residential street into the site of a battle royale, kicking and beating four individuals in a brutal act of political violence.”

Prosecutors referred to McInnes as a “hatemonger” and said that violence was an innate part of the group. Ten Proud Boys disciples were arrested following the attack.

Proud Boys members can be seen on a videotape (above) racing to the scene where the October attack occurred and shouting to one another: “Proud Boys, are you ready?” An unidentified victim is then viciously kicked and stomped on the ground as the Proud Boys members yell “faggot” as police arrive.

The convictions follow by just two days President Donald Trump’s threat to label the anti-fascists, or “antifa” — not the Proud Boys — as an “organization of terror.” Proud Boys leaders and former Infowars staffer Joe Biggs, who organized a protest against antifa Saturday in Portland, Oregon, crowed that Trump had taken the side of the right-wing extremists.

Hare and Kinsman could each face up to 15 years in prison on the counts. They’re scheduled to be sentenced in October.

No one in antifa, whose members are anonymous, stepped forward to file a complaint with police in the Manhattan assault.

Nor did they provide information to investigators when questioned. But witness accounts and videotapes taken by journalists, as well as from a surveillance camera in a nearby building, were used to convict the men.

One witness who cooperated with law enforcement authorities was the target of death threats..

Members of the Proud Boys initially claimed the attack was self-defense and that they were ambushed by the anti-fascists. A video showed a black-masked member of the antifa group throwing a small water bottle at the Proud Boys, which missed.

But a building surveillance video from another angle, obtained by The New York Times, showed that the bottle was thrown as Proud Boys charged antifa members for the attack.

“Their attack was vicious, disproportionate and, most important, unnecessary,” prosecutor Joshua Steinglass said in closing arguments, the Times reported.

Because antifa members did not cooperate with police, prosecutors could only charge the defendants with attempted assault, rather than assault, which requires evidence of injury, according to the Times.

Seven other members of Proud Boys have been convicted on various charges in connection with the brawl, including disorderly conduct and riot, and have been sentenced to five days of community service to 10 months in jail. One other case is pending.

The all-male Proud Boys organization— which describes its members as “Western chauvinists” — has been characterized as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for its spread of white nationalism, misogyny and Islamophobia. The group has vowed to return monthly to Portland to face off against antifa members there.

Portland’s Democratic mayor, Ted Wheeler, accused Biggs of using the threat to return to “feed that sense of fear” in the nation that is “aimed predominantly at women and people of color and immigrants.”

Wheeler added: “I want to be very clear: We do not want him here in my city, period.”

The mayor also blasted Trump’s rhetoric in the matter as “not helpful.”

So you agree that violence should be prosecuted? Did you look at what antifa did to Andrew Ngo in the video link that I provide?

This type of violence should always be prosecuted. Let the courts figure out if it is justified.

Our legal system generally rules that violence is never an appropriate response to speech.


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As a person goes down the path of liberalism, they eventually reach the point of "by any means necessary". From there, the law is ONLY used to support their twisted view and the Constitution becomes an historical document with no relevance to the Utopia they want to form. Support for ANTIFA is an indicator that they've reached that point. If liberalism is a mental disease, I think this is the point it becomes incurable.


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So you agree that violence should be prosecuted? Did you look at what antifa did to Andrew Ngo in the video link that I provide?

This type of violence should always be prosecuted. Let the courts figure out if it is justified.

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So Conservative Hate Groups are ok? Well Ok!


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Karma is a *****. This is what happens when these pussies don't have a 20:1 advantage. Fighting grown men is a little different from the elderly.
  
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08-20-2019, 04:43 AM

Do you consider them conservative because they are a hate group?

The Democratic party has become a hate group and I don't consider them conservative.

Any group whose stated purpose is to cause mayhem and commit violence is a terrorist group, regardless of their politics.


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The Proud Boys have been tarred while ANTIFA is free range. CNN loves ANTIFA.
  
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08-20-2019, 08:28 AM

I can't wait for the proud boys to get serious with these parasites.

Portland Oregon will be a fertile field for the final solution to this problem.


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They are being found guilty in court. Sort of a Nazi thing to do to criminalize those
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Label anything you want, hang them all. Sounds good to me. Actually, we should just let them loose and let them and Antifa kill each other. Save the taxpayers a little coin.


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Yup.

One act of violence doesn't justify the other. Lock all the bastards up....and deem ANTIFA a terrorist group....along with any right-wing groups committing acts of violence.


If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.


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Wait a minute. Doesn't anyone here support what the Proud Boys stand for? Of course not. Robin, do you understand that? I don't know a single person on this Board or in my real life that supports that group. Why? Because NO ONE SHOULD SUPPORT TERRORISM OR VIGILANTES.
  
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Custer wrote: “If I could decide the questions, I would offer no compromise except that which is offense at the front of a bayonet, and rather than that we should accept peace, except on our own terms, I would, and do, favor a war of extermination. I would hang every human being who possesses a drop of rebel blood in their veins whether they be men, women or children. Then after having freed the country from the presence of every rebel, I would settle the whole Southern country with a population loyal and patriotic who would not soon forget their obligations to their country and to themselves.”

The country today is getting there. People are getting sick and tired of the unreasonable whimpering left. And the left feels the same way about the other side no doubt. Let the proud boys and antifa do whatever, who cares? We can just watch it from the comfort of our living rooms on our tv's and computers right? Let the better gladiators win. The police should just stand down.


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Wait a minute. Doesn't anyone here support what the Proud Boys stand for? Of course not. Robin, do you understand that? I don't know a single person on this Board or in my real life that supports that group. Why? Because NO ONE SHOULD SUPPORT TERRORISM OR VIGILANTES.
Another "yup", as we've all been saying...

...but that does just completely deflate Robin's narrative...


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Wait a minute. Doesn't anyone here support what the Proud Boys stand for? Of course not. Robin, do you understand that? I don't know a single person on this Board or in my real life that supports that group. Why? Because NO ONE SHOULD SUPPORT TERRORISM OR VIGILANTES.
I don't support what they stand for but when they confront antifa it also doesn't bother me one bit. The enemy of my enemy is in some ways my friend.

Wait a minute does that make me a racist or something?



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Wait a minute does that make me a racist or something?

No....but PJ will be along to set all us "-ist" labeled bastards straight!


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