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09-19-2019, 07:31 AM

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So many things better to be doing with my time...

How nice.

Well, let's go through these.

Thorsten Hohmann - a Candian
I really wish this person was here contributing and telling stories.
Darren Appleton - a Brit
I really should look into him more.

This is an American Legend topic. I have no idea why they feel they can chime in except to say congrats.

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On the order of are there "Russians" messing with domestic policy, here you go.
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Nick Varner
"I think this run should be accepted for what it is. It's not a game situation in either case."

I don't think he is agreeing as you want. Translated it means, it is "John's best-ever high run" or whatever but not related or linked to Mosconi. If he wants to beat Mosconi, he needs to do it the same way, as the end of a game and no bank shots.

Mike Sigel
Put me down as a fan. I just wish when they put a mic on him the would actually let us listen to what he is saying.

"I don't think this should be questioned at all. Give him the credit."

No this isn't something that should be questioned. The evidence should be so clear that there is no room to question any aspect. But there is no tangible public evidence to support his claim that he, in fact, ran 626 balls with strict adherence to the rules except a statement from the BCA. This isn't the Miss whatever title and we are going to "Give" it sally because she tries so hard to keep the weight off. This is something earned by doing something amazing. Not having a good day on your practice table under a lot of sketchy conditions.

If you want the credit for beating Mosconi, then you need to beat him on his own turf, 1 game, 1 chance, one long run until you miss, with a ref, a normal rack, right side of the table, Maple cue, Masters, same table dimensions, no 5 hour boost, on a table used by the public, with the same kind of felt, balls, and a licensed attorney with a Notary to make it all nice and legal just like happened to the Legend. Hec you might as well drive there that day and sleep in your car for a while before you start at 8:00 before 50 or so near-strangers that have assembled in advanced who are having a few "pops" and waiting to see the famous you play pool.

Good luck with that.


Bottom line, you can't "GIVE HIM" an achievement he didn't earn.
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09-19-2019, 08:20 AM

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So many things better to be doing with my time...

How nice.

Well, let's go through these.

Thorsten Hohmann - a Candian
I really wish this person was here contributing and telling stories.
Darren Appleton - a Brit
I really should look into him more.

This is an American Legend topic. I have no idea why they feel they can chime in except to say congrats.

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On the order of are there "Russians" messing with domestic policy, here you go.
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Nick Varner
"I think this run should be accepted for what it is. It's not a game situation in either case."

I don't think he is agreeing as you want. Translated it means, it is "John's best-ever high run" or whatever but not related or linked to Mosconi. If he wants to beat Mosconi, he needs to do it the same way, as the end of a game and no bank shots.

Mike Sigel
Put me down as a fan. I just wish when they put a mic on him the would actually let us listen to what he is saying.

"I don't think this should be questioned at all. Give him the credit."

No this isn't something that should be questioned. The evidence should be so clear that there is no room to question any aspect. But there is no tangible public evidence to support his claim that he, in fact, ran 626 balls with strict adherence to the rules except a statement from the BCA. This isn't the Miss whatever title and we are going to "Give" it sally because she tries so hard to keep the weight off. This is something earned by doing something amazing. Not having a good day on your practice table under a lot of sketchy conditions.

If you want the credit for beating Mosconi, then you need to beat him on his own turf, 1 game, 1 chance, one long run until you miss, with a ref, a normal rack, right side of the table, Maple cue, Masters, same table dimensions, no 5 hour boost, on a table used by the public, with the same kind of felt, balls, and a licensed attorney with a Notary to make it all nice and legal just like happened to the Legend. Hec you might as well drive there that day and sleep in your car for a while before you start at 8:00 before 50 or so near-strangers that have assembled in advanced who are having a few "pops" and waiting to see the famous you play pool.

Good luck with that.


Bottom line, you can't "GIVE HIM" an achievement he didn't earn.
Would you still feel the same if SVB had ran the 626, or is it that you just don't care for John Schmidt?
  
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Cool Oh it's worse then you thought on Thorsten Hohmann - 09-19-2019, 08:54 AM

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Would you still feel the same if SVB had ran the 626, or is it that you just don't care for John Schmidt?
yes and I don't know John.

I also don't know who's on first and what's on second.

Oh it's worse then you thought on Thorsten Hohmann

I use the Lucassi cue called the hitman that was endorsed by him.

I have to get back to my projects, Big meeting for me in a couple of hours and yesterday and my mind is there. Sorry for the confusion but even if he endorsed the cue I have grown to love, I am an American defending one of its legends and arguing amongst many that do not possess the same ethics.

SVB can't do it. lol.


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09-19-2019, 08:59 AM

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yes and I don't know John.

I also don't know who's on first and what's on second.

Oh it's worse then you thought on Thorsten Hohmann

I use the Lucassi cue called the hitman that was endorsed by him.

I have to get back to my projects, Big meeting for me in a couple of hours and yesterday and my mind is there. Sorry for the confusion but even if he endorsed the cue I have grown to love, I am an American defending one of its legends and arguing amongst many that do not possess the same ethics.

SVB can't do it. lol.
I guess you defended Babe Ruth's record from being beaten.....by another AMERICAN as well, right?
  
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09-19-2019, 09:05 AM

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So many things better to be doing with my time...




Yet here you are.

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09-19-2019, 09:29 AM

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That didn't take long at all.

It would be nice to read a thread about John where most, if not all of the posts are about John and what he has done.
What John did is amazing. I am very glad to hear from some well respected players who know what they are talking about. To the op thanks for sharing.

What John did doesn't erase Mosconi. You guys realize that right. You can still have your precious memories and celebrate a freakish achievement by another human being.

I don't care what minute detail you can dig out to make it seem like a walk in the park. You can't do it and neither has all but one and maybe a second person.

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09-19-2019, 09:46 AM

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I guess you defended Babe Ruth's record from being beaten.....by another AMERICAN as well, right?
Sadly, some people did have an issue with Hank Aaron beating Ruth’s home run record. Death threats and all....a lot to do with his race.

I guess since Hank Aaron had around 4000 more at bats then Ruth, then his record doesn’t count.
  
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09-19-2019, 09:56 AM

I saw Tony two weeks ago at his 14.1 Clinic at Amsterdam. One of the students in the class asked about John's record, and Tony was very happy to point out that the BCA has certified the record.


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Sadly, some people did have an issue with Hank Aaron beating Ruth’s home run record. Death threats and all....a lot to do with his race.

I guess since Hank Aaron had around 4000 more at bats then Ruth, then his record doesn’t count.
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09-19-2019, 10:12 AM

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Well done, John. The respect of your peers means everything!
IMHO, I believe the fact that his peers believe he did it speaks volumes.

Has anyone heard a professional pool player cast doubt on the fact that he accomplished his feat? Anyone???

{crickets chirping}

I would bet that John Schmidt cares more about what his peers feel about his 626 ball run than any keyboard punching, half-a$$ed pool playing pool forum contributor does.

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09-19-2019, 10:16 AM

Yeah and he played in a smaller ball park too.

I heard all the excuses by the haters then. Guess it doesn't change.

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Sadly, some people did have an issue with Hank Aaron beating Ruth’s home run record. Death threats and all....a lot to do with his race.

I guess since Hank Aaron had around 4000 more at bats then Ruth, then his record doesn’t count.


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09-19-2019, 10:17 AM

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...and a licensed attorney with a Notary to make it all nice and legal just like happened to the Legend.

Bottom line, you can't "GIVE HIM" an achievement he didn't earn.
It's a record. Not a legal document. You don't need an act of congress to report that something happened.

As to your last statement, you are correct. You can't give him something he didn't earn. But, by your own logic, you should be able to recognize something he did accomplish. That is, even if you challenge the fact that he "beat" Mosconi, you cannot deny that he ran 626 balls, on camera.

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Kudos for Mr. Schmidt - 09-19-2019, 10:59 AM

Count me as one of the admirers of John Schmidt's feat; I also don't see anyone ever beating 626...although some may say "nothing is impossible"...

Congratulations to John Schmidt for attaining what seems to have been at least one of his life's goals.......it most certainly must've seemed like the "Impossible Dream...." ........ Maybe even more amazing to me is the number of times he attempted to do this and failed, after running 100-400 and more balls each time......(208 times, if I read right?) ....

I am very happy for him, and also that the BCA seems to have recognized this
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Arthur "Babe" Cranfield, straight pool, 768 balls, unofficial, during a practice session (for legitimacy issues, see his witnessed 450 and 420 runs below)
Goto all of these former straight pool champions websites and you will find that they all are expecting to sell something of theirs to each and every visitor, same as JS wanting to sell all pool players a copy of the video. No one would expect any of them to knock any other one of them.
They're business people, in it for the money. And we wonder why pool has gone downhill so much lately.
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