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Evan Clarke -vs- Bob Runde ...And Schon Cues - 05-18-2008, 11:44 AM

No sorry Az'ers this is not a TAR match .... ...

I have loved Schon ever since I walked into what was my local cue dealer at the time and plopped down 300.00 for a R-11 he recommended I try ... He said it was something new but he thought it was a well built cue ... I quit playing for 18 years threw it into the closet and I guess you could say disappeared from the pool world for all of those 18 years... Call me Rip pool winkle ...

18 years later I wake up to pool again pull my R -11 out of the closet and I'm amazed at how much my 300.00 cue is worth ... I'm saddened that Bob Runde has left Schon , I'm surprised at how big that little company called Schon cues has become , I'm heartbroke that they no longer use the long sharp points that Runde used in his Schons and I'm wondering who the heck is this Evan Clarke guy? Is he good or is he feeding off of what Bob Runde started? I still love Schon heck who would'nt in my situation but it's more then that I love the hit of thier cues. What right does Evan have to discontinue the long sharp points that were standard in Schon? Was he not good enough to duplicate what Runde started ? I'm glad all Schons are still hand made But then again all of this just wants to make me go back to sleep ...

So maybe some of you know more then me perhaps some of you know what I slept through ... Is Evan better then Runde ? Who is Evan Clarke ?
I loved the hit of my R-11 for 300.00 brand new off the shelf it was a total bargain .... I also like the hit of the newer Schons though I hear many say that the Schons Evan makes are not as good as the Runde era Schons ... What is the reason for saying that? Was Runde that much better? I've often heard that the hit of the R series Schons from Runde are far superior then the hit of todays Schons ... I have to admit I hit both and like both ...

So feel me in AZ'ers what is up with all of this ... Who is better Runde or Evan ? How do you feel about Schon and all the changes? Why did Runde leave Schon or did Schon quit Runde?


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05-18-2008, 11:52 AM

i have to admit i do notice a difference between older schon cues like my dad's old R1 and the new ones like the stl1. there pretty much the same cue looks-wise, and i know this is going to sound odd, but i find that the newer schon's feel almost hollow, whereas the old ones just feel solid. just my .02
  
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05-18-2008, 12:22 PM

from what i've heard the older r series that bob runde helped make play noticeably better than the new ones.
  
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Post Runde - 05-18-2008, 12:46 PM

I had a Runde R1 Tulipwood. I still miss her! I own an elite Tulipwood now and It's just not the same.

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05-18-2008, 12:47 PM

NOT a Runde.
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An Opinion - 05-18-2008, 12:52 PM

I have owned several cues by Evan Clark and I have seen some of his over-the-top stuff. His design genius has maintained Schon's vast appeal. What a great contribution his work has made. We once discussed the value of a Schon I was thinking of selling; Evan simply asked me if I liked the way the cue hit. At that point, I knew I would have regretted selling it at any price.

Runde and Clarke are both exceptional cuemakers. Their work is different, but it comes down to your preference. As to the question of value, Runde has an advantage...he no longer builds Schon cues so the supply of his Schons is finite and thus more rare.
  
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05-18-2008, 12:52 PM

I often have wondered the same thing, who is Evan Clarke. I have heard that he doesn't appreciate the Runde reference to the old Schon cues, and although I personally don't like the term "Runde Era" Schon for cues built while Bob was still with the company, but not by Bob, a Schon like your R-11 is a Runde cue and should be described that way. I don't consider "Runde era" cues Runde's, just because they were built while Bob was still with Schon. The Runde R-series Schon cues are still a good value considering the playability, and they are collectible too. jmo
  
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05-18-2008, 12:55 PM

I have both, I have played with both for 20 years.....they are both EXCELLENT cues!

What "sharp points" or not has to do with a cue I will never understand? you guys realize some makers CNC points then hand cut them sharp right?!

My everyday player now is an stl-1 which replaced an STL-17. I'm over the whole "flashy" cue deal. I can afford to buy whatever cue I feel like. I want the most solid cue I can get, and thats a plain jane SCHON!

Evan Clark is as talented as any cue maker out there IMO......and doesn't jump on the "copycat" band wagon like a lot of builders have...

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05-18-2008, 01:14 PM

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NOT a Runde.
i heard something about that. it's cool to see it in the picture though. Is that the "A" joint?

little things like that might be what separates runde era schons and even clark schons.

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Joey in Cali ... - 05-18-2008, 01:22 PM

What is the meaning in your post of not a Runde ... I must of missed something ?


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05-18-2008, 01:28 PM

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What is the meaning in your post of not a Runde ... I must of missed something ?
he's talking about the huge gap of empty space that isn't filled with anything.
  
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Thanks ... - 05-18-2008, 01:33 PM

Ok I was wondering why that space was in there is this a Evan Clarke Schon ... Why would they do that what purpose does it serve ? Guess that is why they say the newer Schons have a hollow hit to them...


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Ok I was wondering why that space was in there is this a Evan Clarke Schon ... Why would they do that what purpose does it serve ? Guess that is why they say the newer Schons have a hollow hit to them...

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i think they do it because they lack the attention to detail that Bob Runde had
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05-18-2008, 06:00 PM

Evan bought out Bob Runde in 1991. After 17 years I dont think he is a johnny come lately.Now a big company ? With 5 technicians building cues and Evan doing ALL the finishing, is that a big company.Evan does all the designs of the limited models and the current models. I too wish they had the spliced forearm. But not feeding off Bob, Evan has made some design changes. I have owned 8 Schons over the years. Presently own 2 (R) series ( runde era) and 2 SL series from the late nineties (clark era ). I dont see any difference in the hit from one to the other. All four have the Moori mediums (originals) and they all hit real good. Been shooting only 10 years; have owned Blacks, Boars,Pechauers, Oliviers,Josey, etc. Just my 2 cents but I feel they stil make a fine hitting, good looking cue.
  
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