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Black-Balled · Feb 14, 2019

12:00 pm: Play Begins
* NOTE: At 11:00 am, we will conduct a role call. If a registered player is not present at that time, his/her spot will be offered to the next person on the waiting list. We highly recommend that you arrive Friday night to avoid traffic and other delays. There will be no exceptions so please, arrive early. There is no need to call the Tournament Director or the venue to say you will be late. If you are late, you may lose your spot without refund - no exceptions, no favors.

Wtf? Who is the customer here?

mikepage · Feb 14, 2019

Black-Balled said:
12:00 pm: Play Begins
* NOTE: At 11:00 am, we will conduct a role call. If a registered player is not present at that time, his/her spot will be offered to the next person on the waiting list. We highly recommend that you arrive Friday night to avoid traffic and other delays. There will be no exceptions so please, arrive early. There is no need to call the Tournament Director or the venue to say you will be late. If you are late, you may lose your spot without refund - no exceptions, no favors.

Wtf? Who is the customer here?

Why do you object to this?

iusedtoberich · Feb 14, 2019

What tournament is this for?

I also see absolutely zero problem with it. Running a tournament is all about herding cats.

Black-Balled · Feb 14, 2019

mikepage said:
Why do you object to this?

Play is slated to begin at a certain time. Host can take provisional entries...but they are pool players and many from afar.

Hotel? Add 150$ to the cost...

What's there to object to?

Black-Balled · Feb 14, 2019

iusedtoberich said:
What tournament is this for?

I also see absolutely zero problem with it. Running a tournament is all about herding cats.

I agree there must be some lines drawn, and these restrict the customer base.

Joe_Jaguar · Feb 14, 2019

Black-Balled said:
12:00 pm: Play Begins
* NOTE: At 11:00 am, we will conduct a role call. If a registered player is not present at that time, his/her spot will be offered to the next person on the waiting list. We highly recommend that you arrive Friday night to avoid traffic and other delays. There will be no exceptions so please, arrive early. There is no need to call the Tournament Director or the venue to say you will be late. If you are late, you may lose your spot without refund - no exceptions, no favors.

Wtf? Who is the customer here?

You don't really think the customer is always right, do you?

Joe_Jaguar · Feb 14, 2019

iusedtoberich said:
What tournament is this for?

I also see absolutely zero problem with it. Running a tournament is all about herding cats.

2019 VA State 10-Ball Championship?

Z-Nole · Feb 14, 2019

Black-Balled said:
I agree there must be some lines drawn, and these restrict the customer base.

Hopefully it's just a hard-line stance they're taking before the tournament, and then once it starts they give a couple minute grace period.

jviss · Feb 14, 2019

Black-Balled said:
At 11:00 am, we will conduct a role call.

Wtf? Who is the customer here?

I thought you were objecting to "role call," as opposed to the correct "roll call."

jrctherake · Feb 14, 2019

Black-Balled said:
12:00 pm: Play Begins
* NOTE: At 11:00 am, we will conduct a role call. If a registered player is not present at that time, his/her spot will be offered to the next person on the waiting list. We highly recommend that you arrive Friday night to avoid traffic and other delays. There will be no exceptions so please, arrive early. There is no need to call the Tournament Director or the venue to say you will be late. If you are late, you may lose your spot without refund - no exceptions, no favors.

Wtf? Who is the customer here?

The customer is ALWAYS:

The one that has the money. Everyone else are the folks that want the money.

Black-Balled · Feb 14, 2019

jviss said:
I thought you were objecting to "role call," as opposed to the correct "roll call."

No pool for you
:smile2::rotflmao1::smile2:

Cory in DC · Feb 14, 2019

Black-Balled said:
12:00 pm: Play Begins
* NOTE: At 11:00 am, we will conduct a role call. If a registered player is not present at that time, his/her spot will be offered to the next person on the waiting list. We highly recommend that you arrive Friday night to avoid traffic and other delays. There will be no exceptions so please, arrive early. There is no need to call the Tournament Director or the venue to say you will be late. If you are late, you may lose your spot without refund - no exceptions, no favors.

Wtf? Who is the customer here?

Pool tourneys have a vicious cycle: they always start late, so everyone expects them to start late, so everyone comes late, so pool tournaments always start late. I am in favor of efforts to break that cycle!

Maniac · Feb 14, 2019

I don't have a problem with this policy as long as the entrants knew about it BEFORE they paid their entry fees.

Maniac

Black-Balled · Feb 14, 2019

Cory in DC said:
Pool tourneys have a vicious cycle: they always start late, so everyone expects them to start late, so everyone comes late, so pool tournaments always start late. I am in favor of efforts to break that cycle!

On time is important for a lot of reasons....early and late each have their own shortcomings.

Chopdoc · Feb 14, 2019

Black-Balled said:
12:00 pm: Play Begins
* NOTE: At 11:00 am, we will conduct a role call. If a registered player is not present at that time, his/her spot will be offered to the next person on the waiting list. We highly recommend that you arrive Friday night to avoid traffic and other delays. There will be no exceptions so please, arrive early. There is no need to call the Tournament Director or the venue to say you will be late. If you are late, you may lose your spot without refund - no exceptions, no favors.

Wtf? Who is the customer here?

Customer?

I thought they were players? Competitors?

Do we call tennis tournament players customers? Football players? Olympic competitors?

I think "customer" is a strange way of looking at it...but maybe I am way off.

.

Black-Balled · Feb 14, 2019

Chopdoc said:
Customer?

I thought they were players? Competitors?

Do we call tennis tournament players customers? Football players? Olympic competitors?

I think "customer" is a strange way of looking at it...but maybe I am way off.

.

I don't see is as a misnomer at all.

I would think the hosts would seek to include folks, not add restrictions.

Events in the area used to draw hundred+, regularly...now, often less than 50.

jrctherake · Feb 14, 2019

Black-Balled said:
I don't see is as a misnomer at all.

I would think the hosts would seek to include folks, not add restrictions.

Events in the area used to draw hundred+, regularly...now, often less than 50.

I think customer is spot on.

Why? Customers are people that are looking to buy/spend money.

Well, pool player pay (buy) entry fees (product).

Pretty simple really.

Again, your right about the restrictions. That's complete horseshit. I dont follow that at all.

Black-Balled · Feb 14, 2019

jrctherake said:
I think customer is spot on.

Why? Customers are people that are looking to buy/spend money.

Well, pool player pay (buy) entry fees (product).

Pretty simple really.

Again, your right about the restrictions. That's complete horseshit. I dont follow that at all.

Thanks for the words.

I don't want to come off as oppositional and I think some lines must be drawn for the benefit of the hosts and for other participants:i cant say it is complete bs.

I find the decree: thou shalt arrive an hour prior to start and should get a hotel too, to be overly imposing. A detriment to the event for both potential players and therefore the hosts, as well.

jasonlaus · Feb 14, 2019

That's the way all tournaments should be run - no exceptions! If I'm there on time you should be too.
Jason

Quesports · Feb 14, 2019

I used to work for a deep sea charter boat fishing out of Glocester Mass. We used to get calls asking what time does the 8 o'clock boat leave? We politely said 8 o'clock on the dot. They would then tell us they were running late I'll be there by 8:10 or so. We then told them we'd wave to them on our way out. They got the message and that was that. Whoever thinks they are so important that 50 or so on time others should wait for them? No one customer is worth pissing off all the others. On time or stay home. Pretty easy really...

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