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Allen isn't interested in analyzing and teaching. I've tried dragging things out of him and it's like pulling teeth.

Allen has been criticized himself by forum hack players who think they know everything when it comes to the distance of his bridge hand from the CB and shortness of his stroke. He could care less. There isn't one member on pool forums that would even qualify to carry his jockstrap let alone beat him in any pool game invented.

You never answered my question. Are you now running multiple 100's or run ONE 100 yet from all the stroke analyzing and changes.
You are exhausting to try and have a conversation with because you refuse to reply in the proper format. You absolutely missed my point. I said that the successful golfers who have unorthodox strokes have one thing in common, that they have the club face in the correct position when it counts. You went on to give me a list of top pros who have unorthodox mechanics yet at are at the top of the game. That wasn't my point. Reread.

I have not run 100 mostly because I have not tried to. I have had a long and time consuming journey. I have other responsibilities so with the time I have for playing pool I devoted it to mechanics and drills to test those mechanics. Occasionally I'll run a couple of racks to test things out and can see that I am a better player now. I can do things that I wasn't so confident in before. Once I'm satisfied with my mechanics, which is pretty close, then I'll get back to actually playing the game and we'll see what happens.

I appreciate the normal discussion, but I'm just not going to respond any more to things you type inside of quoted text. If you write something that shows up in quotes like the stuff about Allen above, then I'll address it. Otherwise it's just too annoying to figure out how to reply.


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You are exhausting to try and have a conversation with because you refuse to reply in the proper format. You absolutely missed my point. I said that the successful golfers who have unorthodox strokes have one thing in common, that they have the club face in the correct position when it counts. You went on to give me a list of top pros who have unorthodox mechanics yet at are at the top of the game. That wasn't my point. Reread.

I'm getting exhausted myself. The point I was trying to make is
IF ONLY A PERFECT SWING AND FUNDAMENTALS WILL GUARANTEE A SQUARE CLUB FACE AT IMPACT, HOW IS IT THAT AN IMPERFECT SWING AND POSITIONS ALLOW THEM TO DO THE SAME THING AT IMPACT? THEY SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT WITH THE CONSISTENCY OF THE PERFECT SWINGS. THOSE IMPERFECT SWINGS AND FUNDAMENTALS HAVE WON MORE TOURNAMENTS AND MONEY OVER THEIR CAREER THAN MANY OF THE PERFECT ONES.


I have not run 100 mostly because I have not tried to. I have had a long and time consuming journey. I have other responsibilities so with the time I have for playing pool I devoted it to mechanics and drills to test those mechanics. Occasionally I'll run a couple of racks to test things out and can see that I am a better player now. I can do things that I wasn't so confident in before. Once I'm satisfied with my mechanics, which is pretty close, then I'll get back to actually playing the game and we'll see what happens.

Chasing perfection is a never ending chase. You're too old for starters and too ingrained.

I appreciate the normal discussion, but I'm just not going to respond any more to things you type inside of quoted text. If you write something that shows up in quotes like the stuff about Allen above, then I'll address it. Otherwise it's just too annoying to figure out how to reply.
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Well adios. I'm not changing. But it has been a pleasure.
I'm pretty sure you are not capable of learning new things. Too ingrained and all.

I'm sure Gene has lost track of this thread, so thanks for that.


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I'm pretty sure you are not capable of learning new things. Too ingrained and all.

I'm sure Gene has lost track of this thread, so thanks for that.
I'm sure Gene will answer if he wants to answer. He's about as stand up a man as can be out in the pool world.

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I'm sure Gene will answer if he wants to answer. He's about as stand up a man as can be out in the pool world.

Right, I'm mired in mediocrity and staying that way.
Gene will answer if he finds my post way back a page or two. Not everybody gets automatic notifications of new messages and they tend to not see everything. Not that big a deal, though.

Honestly, if either of us were too stuck in our ways and not looking to improve then neither of us would be so active on AZ. Tell me how many people change dominant eye after decades of play (on and off as it is).


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You are exhausting to try and have a conversation with because you refuse to reply in the proper format. You absolutely missed my point. I said that the successful golfers who have unorthodox strokes have one thing in common, that they have the club face in the correct position when it counts. You went on to give me a list of top pros who have unorthodox mechanics yet at are at the top of the game. That wasn't my point. Reread.

I have not run 100 mostly because I have not tried to. I have had a long and time consuming journey. I have other responsibilities so with the time I have for playing pool I devoted it to mechanics and drills to test those mechanics. Occasionally I'll run a couple of racks to test things out and can see that I am a better player now. I can do things that I wasn't so confident in before. Once I'm satisfied with my mechanics, which is pretty close, then I'll get back to actually playing the game and we'll see what happens.

I appreciate the normal discussion, but I'm just not going to respond any more to things you type inside of quoted text. If you write something that shows up in quotes like the stuff about Allen above, then I'll address it. Otherwise it's just too annoying to figure out how to reply.

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Gene will answer if he finds my post way back a page or two. Not everybody gets automatic notifications of new messages and they tend to not see everything. Not that big a deal, though.
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It sounds like it's a big deal to you so here's a solution. Copy and paste it for a repost here at the end. And then quit posting so it doesn't get buried again.
  
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It goes without saying whether I was teaching someone or they learned from a pro instructor, it should be with conventional instruction covering the FUNDAMENTALS to build a strong base.

However, eventually everyone takes their own direction and very few stick with a pro instructor for any length of time.

IF they get to a fairly decent playing level, I think they should be introduced to other ways of playing that deviate from pure parallel aiming for English and especially aiming.

I'd miss more than 50% of all my shots now if I had to go back to parallel offset for English.
thanks for the response
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It sounds like it's a big deal to you so here's a solution. Copy and paste it for a repost here at the end. And then quit posting so it doesn't get buried again.
1. That won't solve the problem. It will only make it even more difficult to understand continued back and forths.
2. Why would I bother since you can't be bothered to spend 5 minutes to learn how to do it properly?
3. Answer to 2: Dave will never do it because then it will look like you listened to me. That would show more maturity than you can muster, so again, it'll never happen. Such a conundrum!

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thanks for the response
what happens after the foundation is set is another story

carry on men
After the foundation it depends on a lot of things. How developed they are with the basics, how much time they want to put into being at a pool table, where they want to take their game, willingness to learn and experiment, natural hand eye coordination, mental attitude, and the list goes on.

I guess you know it when you see it because they're the ones always seeking to learn and find more.
  
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1. That won't solve the problem. It will only make it even more difficult to understand continued back and forths.
2. Why would I bother since you can't be bothered to spend 5 minutes to learn how to do it properly?
3. Answer to 2: Dave will never do it because then it will look like you listened to me. That would show more maturity than you can muster, so again, it'll never happen. Such a conundrum!

Expecting Dave's reply: No I'm not the immature one, you are! lol You can have the last word if you want it.
I thought you said you weren't going to post to me any more. What happened because you keep going on and on.? Are you just an habitual liar?

I guess you can't get it through your thick skull because I've said it a few times before. It is not my intention to make life easier on you so we can post more to each other.

Anything that stops this crap is fine with me. I don't know why you're in the Aiming Forum to begin with. If you have so much to say just take a hike to the 14.1 or Main forum where you'll do more good and have something of value to discuss without all the wise ass comments and barbs.

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