Thanks guys - I crushed an 8 last night

Zphix

Zphix

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Hey guys,

I'd just like to say thanks for all of you who have been answering my recent English questions and cue ball control questions - I've been practicing it quite a lot and I saw it's fruition last night.

I was playing an APA 8 last night because my team captain asked if I'd be comfortable playing him (I'm a 3 because it's my very first league and my captain's a 5) and I said hell yeah! I had to win 2 and he had to win 6...

Won the lag - broke and ran the first two sets and that was it.

Played almost perfect position and could do on the table what I saw happening on my head - it was such a great feeling being able to take what you want to happen and actually make it happen.

So again, thanks guys ;)

-Richard
 
Cornerman

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Zphix said:
Hey guys,

I'd just like to say thanks for all of you who have been answering my recent English questions and cue ball control questions - I've been practicing it quite a lot and I saw it's fruition last night.

I was playing an APA 8 last night because my team captain asked if I'd be comfortable playing him (I'm a 3 because it's my very first league and my captain's a 5) and I said hell yeah! I had to win 2 and he had to win 6...

Won the lag - broke and ran the first two sets and that was it.

Played almost perfect position and could do on the table what I saw happening on my head - it was such a great feeling being able to take what you want to happen and actually make it happen.

So again, thanks guys ;)

-Richard
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You're playing 8-ball against an APA SL-8? What's an SL-8 in APA 8-ball? Super Master?
 
cuesblues

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Cornerman said:
You're playing 8-ball against an APA SL-8? What's an SL-8 in APA 8-ball? Super Master?
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He was obviously playing 9-ball.
If he broke & ran the first two games he only needed 5-more balls to win, and the SL-8 needed to run at least 6-racks to have any chance.
 
Tony_in_MD

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Sometimes your the bug and sometimes the windshield.

;)

Take it stride and in perspective that you are playing in a handicapped league.


Zphix said:
Hey guys,

I'd just like to say thanks for all of you who have been answering my recent English questions and cue ball control questions - I've been practicing it quite a lot and I saw it's fruition last night.

I was playing an APA 8 last night because my team captain asked if I'd be comfortable playing him (I'm a 3 because it's my very first league and my captain's a 5) and I said hell yeah! I had to win 2 and he had to win 6...

Won the lag - broke and ran the first two sets and that was it.

Played almost perfect position and could do on the table what I saw happening on my head - it was such a great feeling being able to take what you want to happen and actually make it happen.

So again, thanks guys ;)

-Richard
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Banks

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cuesblues said:
He was obviously playing 9-ball.
If he broke & ran the first two games he only needed 5-more balls to win, and the SL-8 needed to run at least 6-racks to have any chance.
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Nah, it was 8. He said it was a 2-7 race as a 3. Either they have the super-7 thing in place there where exceptional 7's need an extra or it was just a 2-6 race. Either way, he shot great and got his.
 
cuesblues

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Banks said:
Nah, it was 8. He said it was a 2-7 race as a 3. Either they have the super-7 thing in place there where exceptional 7's need an extra or it was just a 2-6 race. Either way, he shot great and got his.
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Cornerman said:
You're playing 8-ball against an APA SL-8? What's an SL-8 in APA 8-ball? Super Master?
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Sorry, I saw the SL-8 and didn't read it all.
In 8-ball we don't have have SL-8 or Super 7's here in Denver.
We used to have Super 7, and there is barely a master's division.

A few weeks ago we had an SL-3 in 9-ball get lucky and run quite a few balls, and the other team was really pissed off.
I know the other team real well, and they were not happy when I said "welcome to the APA"
Ironic that is was her that pissed this team off since she never ever plays shape, not even with ball in hand.
 
Zphix

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My apologies for the confusion guys -

The guy I played was a SL-8 in 9-ball and a SL-7 in 8-ball but my team captain was talking to me before the game and all I heard was 8 lol - was focusing on the match without it even starting =P

It was a race where I had to win 2 and he had to win 6.

Anyhow - in my area when you first join the APA league regardless of what you're actual skill level is you start out as a 3 and advance based on how you perform through the matches. So I'm not actually a 3 (most players have said I'm at least a 6 unless I get in my head while playing) so it's not uncommon for me to run racks.

You only win the match if you pocket the 8-ball legally but I ran out twice and he didn't get a shot in. I was a little upset because I wanted to keep playing =/

-Richard
 
Cornerman

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Zphix said:
My apologies for the confusion guys -

The guy I played was a SL-8 in 9-ball and a SL-7 in 8-ball but my team captain was talking to me before the game and all I heard was 8 lol - was focusing on the match without it even starting =P

It was a race where I had to win 2 and he had to win 6.

Anyhow - in my area when you first join the APA league regardless of what you're actual skill level is you start out as a 3 and advance based on how you perform through the matches. So I'm not actually a 3 (most players have said I'm at least a 6 unless I get in my head while playing) so it's not uncommon for me to run racks.

You only win the match if you pocket the 8-ball legally but I ran out twice and he didn't get a shot in. I was a little upset because I wanted to keep playing =/

-Richard
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Now it all makes sense.

Freddie <~~~ something like that
 
dr9ball

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So you are new to league, under ranked, getting a large spot and managed to break and run 2 racks and now you have crushed the SL 8? Don't forget to get your "I beat an 8" patch. Congrats on your two break and runs. I hope you will offer to play the SL 8 even for a small sum so you can crush them with out the generous handicap. Then the bragging might be justified.
 
CreeDo

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Good job on the break n runs!

That being said, your local league rules need tweaking.
They took the normal rules and changed them for the worse.
The normal rules have the default starting rank as a 4 (for males).

There is also a provision to start a 'known quantity' at a higher rank,
at least in 9 ball, and your 8 ball handicap carries over to 9b or vice versa.
So they really should have started you at least as a 5.

Even as a 4, that would have given the 7/8 one more chance
and it wouldn't shock me if he went on to win 5 in a row.
So these local house rules suck for him.

Anyway, not to take away from your win.
And definitely, if you've never run a 3-pack before, ask everyone to hold up
and rack them up and see if you can run a third :)
 
Zphix

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I totally agree guys - I really do.

Two games to win for me is almost always guaranteed unless the guy I play is truly outstanding and I consider it a severely unfair advantage for me. Whether in league or in practice I like to face stronger opponent's so I learn more but I don't learn if he doesn't play.

In reality - I offered to play him again on another table (only 4/10 tables are used for league at a time and the remaining 6 are for practice) but he decline and instead left immediately after the game.

6 sessions left in the remaining league time so I might play him again =P

P.S. Anybody know how long it takes to be leveled up SL-wise in the APA?
 
dr9ball

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You should be able to call your league operator and ask to be raised to a SL 7. That way it will be more challenging for you. Your team may disown you though.
 
justadub

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Zphix said:
I totally agree guys - I really do.

Two games to win for me is almost always guaranteed unless the guy I play is truly outstanding and I consider it a severely unfair advantage for me. Whether in league or in practice I like to face stronger opponent's so I learn more but I don't learn if he doesn't play.

In reality - I offered to play him again on another table (only 4/10 tables are used for league at a time and the remaining 6 are for practice) but he decline and instead left immediately after the game.

6 sessions left in the remaining league time so I might play him again =P

P.S. Anybody know how long it takes to be leveled up SL-wise in the APA?
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There isn't a set time frame. Given your obvious ability, your LO should make an adjustment and raise you right away. If he doesn't, you will move up quickly. We had a guy start here that I knew would be a 7, he went up from starting at a 4 to 7 by the end of one session.
 
Zphix

Zphix

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I wonder if it'll take the LO a little longer though - I've been in 4 matches and lost 2 because of nerves that I was still learning to control (both nervous to shoot in front of people and nerves of excitement).

I found that I was getting inside my head and trying to play a game that wasn't mine when I practice so I was losing. But this last match I fixed everything and the rest of my matches should run smoothly.
 
trob

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dr9ball said:
So you are new to league, under ranked, getting a large spot and managed to break and run 2 racks and now you have crushed the SL 8? Don't forget to get your "I beat an 8" patch. Congrats on your two break and runs. I hope you will offer to play the SL 8 even for a small sum so you can crush them with out the generous handicap. Then the bragging might be justified.
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It's one of the things I find funny about apa.. you give someone t a monster spot then they act like they are the greatest player ever when they won. I don't get upset . I just congratulate them .. chuckle to myself and move on. btw you'll be a 3 next week....maybe. Who the hell can figure out there rating system. :p
 
trob

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I guess they can do it ... When my friend took me on his 9 ball team. He was honest with the operators. He told them to start me as a 7 because he was sure I would end up being a 9 any way. It took me 4 matches to knocked kicked up to an 8 and then a 9 by the start of the next session. If he wouldn't have said anything they would have started me as a 4.


CreeDo said:
Good job on the break n runs!

That being said, your local league rules need tweaking.
They took the normal rules and changed them for the worse.
The normal rules have the default starting rank as a 4 (for males).

There is also a provision to start a 'known quantity' at a higher rank,
at least in 9 ball, and your 8 ball handicap carries over to 9b or vice versa.
So they really should have started you at least as a 5.

Even as a 4, that would have given the 7/8 one more chance
and it wouldn't shock me if he went on to win 5 in a row.
So these local house rules suck for him.

Anyway, not to take away from your win.
And definitely, if you've never run a 3-pack before, ask everyone to hold up
and rack them up and see if you can run a third :)
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Roadking

Roadking

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New APA male players start out as 4's in 8-ball no matter what.
Unless you tell the LO your higher then a 4. But to my knowledge you can't tell him to start you out as a 3 because your not a 4.
 
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