Advantage to get Lower on Cue Stick?

Bobkitty · Jan 13, 2019

As we get older, it's less stressful to stand more and more upright on the cue stick. But, if we can get lower, is it an advantage? I might have to go to the gym. I do know that the pure forearm pendulum stroke can only be obtained by getting lower. Higher means the shoulder must move out.

PoolBum · Jan 13, 2019

For me, at least, when I'm lower on the shot I can see the shot better, see the angle better, and see the table better. As a result I think I have a better feel for the speed and direction of the cueball.

Bobkitty · Jan 13, 2019

PoolBum said:
For me, at least, when I'm lower on the shot I can see the shot better, see the angle better, and see the table better. As a result I think I have a better feel for the speed and direction of the cueball.

I'm finding out the pool table looks entirely different from higher down lower. Guess we need to get used to it by time. My back will let me do it. Guess it was easier to stand more upright.

Patrick Johnson · Jan 13, 2019

Prairie dog said:
...if we can get lower, is it an advantage?

Yes - you can see more accurately where your stick is pointed and how the CB/OB overlap.

...the pure forearm pendulum stroke can only be obtained by getting lower.

Lower than what? I think you have to be WAY upright for a pendulum stroke to be impossible.

pj
chgo

pwd72s · Jan 13, 2019

It's an advantage in pool to be young & flexible with all body parts working well.

As we age, that ability diminishes...so we compensate the best we can.

AtLarge · Jan 13, 2019

Prairie dog said:
As we get older, it's less stressful to stand more and more upright on the cue stick. But, if we can get lower, is it an advantage? I might have to go to the gym. I do know that the pure forearm pendulum stroke can only be obtained by getting lower. Higher means the shoulder must move out.

https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=486405

[it's been only 2 weeks]

pwd72s · Jan 13, 2019

AtLarge said:
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=486405

[it's been only 2 weeks]

Also, as we age, the memory seems to slip...

Patrick Johnson · Jan 13, 2019

AtLarge said:
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=486405

[it's been only 2 weeks]

pwd72s said:
Also, as we age, the memory seems to slip...

lol

I thought this seemed familiar - but I couldn't put my finger on it, even though I posted in that earlier thread.

At least I said the same thing here (dodged the perjury trap).

pj
chgo

P.S. Here's a new post from Bob Jewett in that other thread:

Bob Jewett said:
Since we're talking about this again....

Of the ten players in the Mosconi cup, only one has his chin as far as two inches from the cue stick and about half rub their chin with the stick.

Bobkitty · Jan 13, 2019

AtLarge said:
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=486405

[it's been only 2 weeks]

Yes, but this is different. I've found out that the pure pendulum stroke can only be performed if the shooter is low on the cue stick. Also I've found out I can get lower but just wondering to do it. The other post was 5 pages back or so.

dabarbr · Jan 13, 2019

Being down lower, on most shots, you can see the cue ball, object ball, and the pocket all at the same time without having to roll your eyes too much.

misterpoole · Jan 13, 2019

Dennis, did Robin Dreyer address your stance?. If so I think he should have recognised your upright stance. I know i asked you about it the last time I saw you play.
Barrie ---->. Gives cheap lessons

iusedtoberich · Jan 13, 2019

If you decide to go to the gym to help your pool game, Do squats and deadlifts for your legs, and overhead squats for your core. It probably won’t help your pool game, but what the hell

ChrisinNC · Jan 13, 2019

AtLarge said:
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=486405

[it's been only 2 weeks]

Strange - apparently he didn't get the answer he was looking for the first time, so he figured he'd try again.

hitman22 · Jan 13, 2019

Trends come and go depending on whos being worshiped at the time...

Bob Jewett · Jan 13, 2019

hitman22 said:
Trends come and go depending on whos being worshiped at the time...

Very true. Here is the proper stance as taught 180 years ago (Kentfield, "Billiards"):

Notice how a lot of modern players have gone back to the open bridge.

Bobkitty · Jan 13, 2019

misterpoole said:
Dennis, did Robin Dreyer address your stance?. If so I think he should have recognised your upright stance. I know i asked you about it the last time I saw you play.
Barrie ---->. Gives cheap lessons

No, not yet.

hitman22 · Jan 13, 2019

Bob Jewett said:
Very true. Here is the proper stance as taught 180 years ago (Kentfield, "Billiards"):

View attachment 509856

Notice how a lot of modern players have gone back to the open bridge.

Certainty the open bridge is more comfortable and a lot of snooker players like o'Sullivan seem to thrive with it...

Bobkitty · Jan 13, 2019

ChrisinNC said:
Strange - apparently he didn't get the answer he was looking for the first time, so he figured he'd try again.

No, that post was about senior players forced to stand more erect.. We had Ray Martin give us his stance. This post is wondering if it is an advantage to get down lower IF one's body can stand it.

hitman22 · Jan 13, 2019

Getting your chin to close to the cue might have ramifications boys and girls:grin:

Patrick Johnson · Jan 13, 2019

Prairie dog said:
No, that post was about senior players forced to stand more erect.. We had Ray Martin give us his stance. This post is wondering if it is an advantage to get down lower IF one's body can stand it.

Prairie dog said:
Has anyone ever calculated whether the lower cue stance where the cue stick almost hits the face or the more upright stance most of us older guys have to get in. I wonder if it makes a difference in shots?

Maybe you can see why it's a little confusimg...

pj <- good topic, though
chgo

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