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Can non champion players teach - 02-06-2019, 03:47 PM

Yes ... how about some examples.

Fortunately I know both champion instructors and non-champion super teachers.

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02-06-2019, 04:56 PM

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Yes ... how about some examples.

Fortunately I know both champion instructors and non-champion super teachers.

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02-06-2019, 05:35 PM

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Robin Dreyer in Portland. robindreyer.com
ROBIN DREYER IS THE BEST INSTRUCTOR IN THE USA
jmho
i have had lessons with scott lee/mark wilson/lee brett/mark finkelstein
hunter lumbardo
if i couldnt go to robin
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oh btw hunter /mark/lee can play and teach
robin COULD play but doesnt anymore

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My thoughts - 03-12-2019, 08:10 AM

Here is some of my thoughts on this subject: Everyone that has posted on this subject has great points in what they believe and why. the one thing we can all take away from this is, it is a 1 size fits all type subject.

The U.S. billiards/pool scene is 40+ years behind other sports when it comes to coaching and teaching, we can now see the value in it and are making gains in how we approach teaching/coaching. We are experiencing growing pains as we move forward because we have people who believe in the " You cant be me you cant teach me" (I was once one of those players).

The Mosconi cup proved the above statement when Mark Wilson came on board as the coach, he approached the job very different than anybody before him and not all of the players bought into what he was trying to do, plus he had a different set of guidelines like funding ETC. then Rohan, ( I don't know all of the specifics so I will not speculate ) When Rohan came on board he had a different set of guidelines and had more freedom in team selection, boot camps and funding. The results speak for themselves.

Since taking my first professional lesson and a few years later becoming an Instructor I have learned that everyone is different in the way they learn, there body composition is different, intellect and a number of other things and as an instructor I need to find a way to deliver a quality product so the student understands what I am communicating to them and this can be very challenging at times.

I compete when I can and I train hard when I have the time, I have won some decent tournaments, placed in some regional events, I use the things that I have been taught and things I have learned and experienced in competition as teaching points in my instruction.

I can tell you that I don't play as well as I would like to because I work a 40hrs a week job, I coach/teach the Missouri S&T collegiate billiards team, I do cue repair in my area, and I have a family all of this takes up A LOT of time. All of this does have a huge affect on me being "Competition Ready" But I can tell you with 100% certainty that I practice what I preach and I will demonstrate everything I teach before a student tries it so they can see what is supposed to happen (sometimes it takes 2 tries )

The BCA instructors program (PBIA) is growing and getting better. I recommend to my students to seek out other instructors to get a different perspective, this helps the student grow and see things in a different way. Scott Lee did this with me and it was some of the best advise he gave me.

A student needs to find someone that is a good fit for them, they need to have confidence in that instructor because if they don't they are wasting money and time just going through the motions.

Sorry this was long winded. To the grammar police I say "I am a victim of the MI public school system and my own bad decisions"


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03-13-2019, 05:10 AM

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Here is some of my thoughts on this subject: Everyone that has posted on this subject has great points in what they believe and why. the one thing we can all take away from this is, it is a 1 size fits all type subject.

The U.S. billiards/pool scene is 40+ years behind other sports when it comes to coaching and teaching, we can now see the value in it and are making gains in how we approach teaching/coaching. We are experiencing growing pains as we move forward because we have people who believe in the " You cant be me you cant teach me" (I was once one of those players).

The Mosconi cup proved the above statement when Mark Wilson came on board as the coach, he approached the job very different than anybody before him and not all of the players bought into what he was trying to do, plus he had a different set of guidelines like funding ETC. then Rohan, ( I don't know all of the specifics so I will not speculate ) When Rohan came on board he had a different set of guidelines and had more freedom in team selection, boot camps and funding. The results speak for themselves.

Since taking my first professional lesson and a few years later becoming an Instructor I have learned that everyone is different in the way they learn, there body composition is different, intellect and a number of other things and as an instructor I need to find a way to deliver a quality product so the student understands what I am communicating to them and this can be very challenging at times.

I compete when I can and I train hard when I have the time, I have won some decent tournaments, placed in some regional events, I use the things that I have been taught and things I have learned and experienced in competition as teaching points in my instruction.

I can tell you that I don't play as well as I would like to because I work a 40hrs a week job, I coach/teach the Missouri S&T collegiate billiards team, I do cue repair in my area, and I have a family all of this takes up A LOT of time. All of this does have a huge affect on me being "Competition Ready" But I can tell you with 100% certainty that I practice what I preach and I will demonstrate everything I teach before a student tries it so they can see what is supposed to happen (sometimes it takes 2 tries )

The BCA instructors program (PBIA) is growing and getting better. I recommend to my students to seek out other instructors to get a different perspective, this helps the student grow and see things in a different way. Scott Lee did this with me and it was some of the best advise he gave me.

A student needs to find someone that is a good fit for them, they need to have confidence in that instructor because if they don't they are wasting money and time just going through the motions.

Sorry this was long winded. To the grammar police I say "I am a victim of the MI public school system and my own bad decisions"
I don't think you're long winded, I think you have a passion for the subject.

My benchmarks are simple as I wish to practice what I preach. I start with goals for a new student, when I meet a student wanting to go up two rankings in APA league, for example, I watch their play, then make corrections then tell them what to do and approximately how long it will take them to advance. Time = money.


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