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06-17-2019, 12:57 PM

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Before there was Jose Parica and Efren Reyes, there was Boy Bicol.
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06-17-2019, 01:14 PM

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Yup, I mentioned him in post #2 of this thread. A perfect example.
Oops.

Another one that sticks out on my mind is that female player in one of The Monk's videos.
She was a project of Tim Miller. She was going to be the next Allison Fisher.
Then she just quit one day. Got married and quit.


  
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06-17-2019, 02:16 PM

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There was a guy in Tallahassee that died before I got there, I believe his name was Mike Carella, and everyone who saw him said he could have been a world champion. I think I have his name right, but I’m sure some old Florida cracker here can correct me if I’m wrong. Unfortunately he got into some stupid stuff and died too young. There was this old world champion snooker player who lived in tally that had plenty of stories of how well Carrela gambled. Especially at 9 ball.

Watched him play a number of times at Joe Farhat's Velvet Rail in Lansing Michigan during the late 70s. Could run big packages at 9 ball or run a hundred in straight pool at the drop of a hat. Very solid stance and stroke and babied nothing; he was a treat to watch. I believe his last name was spelled Carella. I still have a photo of him, in full playing stance ready to fire, in a copy of the then National Billiard News that accompanied a terse obituary.
  
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06-17-2019, 02:31 PM

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Another one that sticks out on my mind is that female player in one of The Monk's videos.
She was a project of Tim Miller. She was going to be the next Allison Fisher.
Then she just quit one day. Got married and quit.
Can't imagine who you mean. Since 1995, when Allison Fisher first appeared on the American pool scene, no American player has ever looked like they could possibly be the next Allison Fisher.
  
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06-17-2019, 02:52 PM

Id second the mention of Mark Tadd.. so much
natural talent. Nobody wanted any of him when
he was at his peak. Quit playing way too soon..
just seemed to lose interest, like it was too easy?

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06-17-2019, 03:11 PM

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Wow, hate to label anyone as an underachiever, but a couple of guys who were denied a more substantial career because they died young were Nick Vlahos of the Northeast and Tony Ellin of South Carolina. The more obscure but celebrated Boy Bikol, a Filipino superstar who influenced Efren Reyes, was murdered. Some say he played better than Efren. All three are "might-have-been" players.

A player from the late 1990's was denied his chance by a condition that ended his career. By the age of eighteen, he was already starting to be counted among the most elite. He was Michael Coltrain of North Carolina, a protege of Johnny Archer. He's a "might have been" along with others who had conditions or ailments that obstructed their careers as pro pool players.

Others may also have had the talent to have had greater success, but full-time jobs made it impossible for them to reach the very first tier of professional pool achievement. One such guy was Jack Colavita, a craftsman/machinist from New Jersey, once voted by his peers (on the PPPA tour in the early 1980's) as having the best stroke in the game despite the presence of guys like Mizerak, Rempe, Sigel, Varner and some others. Jack is, consequently, a might have been" as are many others like him.
Another MONSTER who died young, Steve Gumphries, from Baltimore.




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06-17-2019, 04:02 PM

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Coltrane's story is kinda brutal. He was a monster and to have that "shakes"(focal task dystonia iirc)deal happen was cruel. I saw him play James Walden an epic match here in Tulsa in '96. James gave him the 8 playing 10ahead for 10dimes. Coltrane got to the hill three times but Walden came back to get the dough. MC could have easily gone on to be a world champion.
Yeah, I got to know Michael back then when I attended some PBT events. Sad story all around. That match with Walden sounds like it was one for the ages.
  
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06-17-2019, 09:43 PM

A Might-Have-Been Great......Mike Carella......
Great rising talent, got caught up in some things and came to an early demise.
Wow, he could play!

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06-17-2019, 10:10 PM

I agree on all of the above, almost all who I've seen play, including Worst. "Worst was best" is what we used to say!

One who hasn't been mentioned is Jon Kucharo out of Bettendorf, Iowa. He came on like gangbusters in the late 90's and was cleaning everyone's clock by the time he was 20 years old. He had the biggest break and seemed to never miss a ball. Jon practiced religiously every day and always came to the tournaments well prepared. He avoided all the hazards of the casino/poolroom life, such as gambling, drugs, alcohol, loose women, etc. He was a monster player, even better than Coltrain, and one of the favorites in any tournament he entered. That is until he was about 22, when he discovered the sweet intoxication of alcohol. From that point on his pool career swiftly spiraled downward and within a couple of years he was washed up.

Jon showed up at the BCA Nationals a few times and played cheap $10 pool in the practice room, but he was just a shadow of his old self. It was sad to see how far he slid downhill and to this date he has never recovered.


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06-17-2019, 10:20 PM

Who is Jack Hines?
  
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06-17-2019, 10:44 PM

Louie Roberts
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They couldn't overcome similar demons. i traveled to Charlotte a lot in the 80's/90's, first met Tony when he was about 12, looked like he was 10 and played very good. Nice kid, hope he's got it together.

Louie was a rock star, had it all. Monster at 2 shot foul 9B. Would roll out to thin cut along the short rail and if the shot was passed back would pocket the ball most of the time. A shadow of his former self when he passed or was killed in the early 90's.

My old road dog, Bill Blake, could have been a contender but also fell prey to the demon.


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06-18-2019, 12:08 AM

wow, what a great response to this thread. so many guys I've not heard of, but am excited to look up. thank y'all for shouting back.

"no person is truly great who is great only in their lifetime. the test of greatness is the page of history."


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A Might-Have-Been Great......Mike Carella......
Great rising talent, got caught up in some things and came to an early demise.
Wow, he could play!

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06-18-2019, 08:02 AM

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Louie Roberts
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They couldn't overcome similar demons. i traveled to Charlotte a lot in the 80's/90's, first met Tony when he was about 12, looked like he was 10 and played very good. Nice kid, hope he's got it together.

Louie was a rock star, had it all. Monster at 2 shot foul 9B. Would roll out to thin cut along the short rail and if the shot was passed back would pocket the ball most of the time. A shadow of his former self when he passed or was killed in the early 90's.

My old road dog, Bill Blake, could have been a contender but also fell prey to the demon.
Tony Watson gave Johnny B, a player who also had a substance abuse issue, the seven in nine ball at Chelsea Billiards in New York in 1996 on a silly tight table. They played for $100 a rack and for the first hour or two, the game was even. But, shortly thereafter, Tony broke and ran nine in a row. The regulars at Chelsea Billiards, among whom I was not counted, told me that they'd have thought a nine pack on that table (for the few who'd remember, it was table 35, the tightest one on the lower level) to be virtually impossible. Johnny B quit him. It was some of the finest shooting I had ever seen.
  
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