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Don't like Fake Polls? - 06-18-2019, 11:36 AM

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RNC's internal polling shows Trump winning key battleground states


By Sam Dorman | Fox News


Trump prepares to launch re-election campaign; Trump 2020 campaign advisory board member Jenna Ellis Rives weighs in.

President Trump is winning in key battleground states and "voters overall" support re-electing him, a Republican National Committee (RNC) memo obtained by Fox News claims.

The memo comes amid reports of the president struggling in polls putting him up against potential 2020 opponents, such as Democratic front runner, former Vice President Joe Biden.

But according to the RNC, its own massive data operation told a different story. According to the numbers, Trump has a higher approval than disapproval rating in the battleground states of Ohio and Pennsylvania while a majority of Florida voters (53 percent) support re-electing him.

“One thing everyone should have learned from the 2016 election is that public polling is often wrong and especially bad at measuring support for President Trump," RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel said in a statement to Fox News.

TRUMP LAUNCHES CAMPAIGN MACHINE WITH MASSIVE WAR CHEST, DESPITE POLLING LAG


"That is why the Republican National Committee built a world-class data program that gives us information we can rely on. The truth is that President Trump is in a remarkably strong position to win reelection. Our internal polling has him winning in key battleground states across the country and sporting incredibly strong approval numbers across the board.”....

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rnc...eground-states


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06-18-2019, 11:49 AM

Rasmussen's reported 51% job approval number was just for one day, and changed the very next day to 48%, where it remains today.

The polling referred to here does not ask the normal question 'who will you vote for (or prefer for 2020)-- PDJT or xxx D?,' but instead asks about tarted up issue questions.

Example (with much exaggeration): Do you favor Joe Biden's traitorous completely open borders plan to allow Mexicans in to rape and murder your family, or PDJT's strong America First! immigration policies?

It's all in the phrasing, which the RNC will not show, because it would prove what I'm saying (with a little less tendentious language). They will not show him winning as stated on the simple head to head preference question that all the others are polling on, because they do not have results favoring him on the normal plain question.

They are comparing apples to salamanders, and saying they have thereby refuted the other normal polling. Simple request-- show the questions they polled on. They will not.


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06-18-2019, 12:08 PM

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Rasmussen's reported 51% job approval number was just for one day, and changed the very next day to 48%, where it remains today.

The polling referred to here does not ask the normal question 'who will you vote for (or prefer for 2020)-- PDJT or xxx D?,' but instead asks about tarted up issue questions.

Example (with much exaggeration): Do you favor Joe Biden's traitorous completely open borders plan to allow Mexicans in to rape and murder your family, or PDJT's strong America First! immigration policies?

It's all in the phrasing, which the RNC will not show, because it would prove what I'm saying (with a little less tendentious language). They will not show him winning as stated on the simple head to head preference question that all the others are polling on, because they do not have results favoring him on the normal plain question.

They are comparing apples to salamanders, and saying they have thereby refuted the other normal polling. Simple request-- show the questions they polled on. They will not.
I've been gone for a while. Plain & simple... do you vote Republican or Democrat... or are you even a U.S. Citizen?

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I've been gone for a while. Plain & simple... do you vote Republican or Democrat... or are you even a U.S. Citizen?

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I've been a registered D since I was eligible to vote as of 1972, and vote that way.

That cannot be much of a surprise to those who have read my posts over time, but as you say, you haven't been here to have seen the obvious signs.


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I've been a registered D since I was eligible to vote as of 1972, and vote that way.

That cannot be much of a surprise to those who have read my posts over time, but as you say, you haven't been here to have seen the obvious signs of degenerative TDS.
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I've been a registered D since I was eligible to vote as of 1972, and vote that way.

That cannot be much of a surprise to those who have read my posts over time, but as you say, you haven't been here to have seen the obvious signs.
WOW. That says... ALOT... & not good imHo.

Do you NOT know what LEFTIST Governments have done to their own citizens & that they killed about 200 MILION of them simply for resisting being enslaved even after those 'governments' had disarmed those citizens?

Do you not see the signs in The Democrat Party or are you One of The Elites of The LEFTIST Democrat Party?

In other words, are you one who has been deceived of are you one pushing to deceive & for The Evil?
  
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The original 'derangement syndrome' coinage was by former psychiatrist Charles Krauthammer in 2003 as 'Bush derangement syndrome.'

As if his critics had no point but rather, some mental problem that clouded their judgment.

By the end of his term, as brother haney often points out, the conservatives who had lauded him as 'sent by God' fully disowned him as never having been a conservative at all, and many of the Republicans who voted for him (twice) denied they had and even denied they were Republicans at all (and acted on the shame, as the R registration percentage sank significantly).

His job approval went down into the low 30%s, until finally reaching its nadir of 28%, iirc. He ruined the R brand so much that he guaranteed an R loss in the presidency, and gave us Barack Hussein Obama as president. Even the BDS crowd probably didn't see all of that coming, but they surely saw something the lickspittle toadies/court courier loyalist/apologists did not until far later.

Sometimes it takes some more time for people to see what others see more quickly.

Krauthammer has passed away (RIP), the original BDS bull was proven misguided, the TDS line is a weak plagiarized echo, and this president makes W look competent and eloquent (when he wasn't either thing).

With this past as prologue, the TDS propaganda claim is pathetic, really.

'You're just crazy!' (or irrationally over-emotional) is not really an argument. It's more an excuse when there is no argument.


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The original 'derangement syndrome' coinage was by former psychiatrist Charles Krauthammer in 2003 as 'Bush derangement syndrome.'

As if his critics had no point but rather, some mental problem that clouded their judgment.

By the end of his term, as brother haney often points out, the conservatives who had lauded him as 'sent by God' fully disowned him as never having been a conservative at all, and many of the Republicans who voted for him (twice) denied they had and even denied they were Republicans at all (and acted on the shame, as the R registration percentage sank significantly).

His job approval went down into the low 30%s, until finally reaching its nadir of 28%, iirc. He ruined the R brand so much that he guaranteed an R loss in the presidency, and gave us Barack Hussein Obama as president. Even the BDS crowd probably didn't see all of that coming, but they surely saw something the lickspittle toadies/court courier loyalist/apologists did not until far later.

Sometimes it takes some more time for people to see what others see more quickly.

Krauthammer has passed away (RIP), the original BDS bull was proven misguided, the TDS line is a weak plagiarized echo, and this president makes W look competent and eloquent (when he wasn't either thing).

With this past as prologue, the TDS propaganda claim is pathetic, really.
I now have a better understanding of WHAT you are. You are a denier who slings BS.

It is Obama who provided the NEED for Trump & We the Patriotic People of the USA thank GOD that God provided Trump as he may have been the Only Candidate capable of defeating the supposed Shoe In of Clinton.

We are an Independent Constitutional Republic & The Democrat Party wants that changed & that makes The Democrat Party Guilty of both Sedition & Subversion AGAINT The Independent Constitutional Republic of the United STATES of America.

Sen. Hatch has said that most of The American People do NOT know just how close we came to being "turned" into a Socialistic Communist State.

This has been a Public Service Announcement. Please Vote Republican at EVERY Level of Government? That is IF you want to keep your Freedom & Personal Liberty.

PS Look at Venezuela & then check that history of the last 50 years. They were the 3rd. most stable Nation of this Hemisphere. Then... supposed "democratic" Socialism. Then Citizens Disarmed. Now... they have eaten all of the Zoo Animals, do not have toilet paper & are being killed in the streets by..."Their Own 'government."

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I now have a better understanding of WHAT you are. You are a denier who slings BS.
I only tell the truth (as I understand it), brother.

I don't hold your different opinions against you. Disagreement is common, even in families.


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I only tell the truth (as I understand it), brother.

I don't hold your different opinions against you. Disagreement is common, even in families.
You can use the words truth associated with you & opinion associated with me all that you like... along with that "brother" & other BS

It is like you were I one eyed Jack, but now I have "clearly" seen the other side of you face.

You're basically playing Trojan Horse much the way Obama did.

You are the enemy from within.

Since it seems that we are of equal ages & our votes "sort of" cancel each other out, I hope that I outlive you, so that My Vote will "sort of" yield an advantage over our current 'relationship'.
  
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I don't hold your different opinions against you. Disagreement is common, even in families.
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You can use the words truth associated with you & opinion associated with me all that you like... along with that "brother" & other BS

It is like you were I one eyed Jack, but now I have "clearly" seen the other side of you face.

You're basically playing Trojan Horse much the way Obama did.

You are the enemy from within.

Since it seems that we are of equal ages & our votes "sort of" cancel each other out, I hope that I outlive you, so that My Vote will "sort of" yield an advantage over our current 'relationship'.
1 A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger. 2 The tongue of the wise useth knowledge aright: but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness. 3 The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good. 4 A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.

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I am not an enemy to anyone, who are all my brothers or sisters. I pray you reconsider your premises, if you really think we are not brothers.


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... the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either -- but right through every human heart -- and through all human hearts.

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1 A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger. 2 The tongue of the wise useth knowledge aright: but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness. 3 The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good. 4 A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.

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I am not an enemy to anyone, who are all my brothers or sisters. I pray you reconsider your premises, if you really think we are not brothers.
Cain & Able were "brothers". Cain killed Able with a rock. Possibly two 'blood' lines. One of Good & the Other of Evil.

If one Perishes, the other no longer has a "brother".

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