I wouldn't think they were thinking that "precise" towards their construction... I think it was was all ornamental.
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I wouldn't think they were thinking that "precise" towards their construction... I think it was was all ornamental.
To the posters talking about all the non true stuff in this thread.
Yes, that is to be expected on the journey to the truth. The reason I started this tread is so we could get to the truth of this highly guarded part of the sport we love.
I can’t for the life of me understand why makers would want to keep it a secret. We can’t know where we are going without knowing our past!
In my mind letting lies and mis-truth continue, when you have the power to set the record straight, is almost as bad as telling the lies yourself.
I have couple friends that make cues and when I compile the list, I will make sure they are in the right places, as I would with anyone.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”. Edmund Burke
...same thing with lies.
Again, thank you, everyone that has contributed!
Yes, that is to be expected on the journey to the truth. The reason I started this tread is so we could get to the truth of this highly guarded part of the sport we love.
I can’t for the life of me understand why makers would want to keep it a secret. We can’t know where we are going without knowing our past!
In my mind letting lies and mis-truth continue, when you have the power to set the record straight, is almost as bad as telling the lies yourself.
I have couple friends that make cues and when I compile the list, I will make sure they are in the right places, as I would with anyone.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”. Edmund Burke
...same thing with lies.
Again, thank you, everyone that has contributed!
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Danny and I taught ourselves at Joss Cues. We made a lot of mistakes but learned from them.
I taught Gus Szamboti how to make blanks over the phone.
Does that make him a disciple?
Bill S.
I think so too.
They were using wood and hide glue back then.
Burton Spain mentions in his making blanks manual, the veneers made the blanks more stable .
Veneers done today are so much better imo.
As expected, because everything evolves .
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Thank you very much for the info! I greatly appreciate your valuable input, it will be impossible to gather this info without input from makers like yourself.
Disciple... wouldn’t say that.
From the makers I’ve talked to about this subject, seems that a lot of info was passed between makers through conversation face to face or over the phone.
Mr. Stroud, if you don’t mind me asking... what made you decide to start building cues? And, who (if any) was your inspiration for building?
Thank you very much for the time.
JCM
Using those dangerous saws while the woods were square ?
In the mid to late 70s. I had a bi-fold flyer from both Joss and JW. I was just a teenager then and couldn't afford a cue. Admiring your work made me want to build my own cue. You may have more "disciples" than you will ever know.
Larry
Points of strength
Although it was correctly stated that full-spliced points, and butterflies, afford large surface areas for gluing, it also should be realized that this construction made part of the cue a composite material. This gives great strength because the grains, or directions of weakness, likely are not aligned. Think plywood. It also decreases the probability of warping. Points at the business end of the cue, though less common, have the same effect.
Although it was correctly stated that full-spliced points, and butterflies, afford large surface areas for gluing, it also should be realized that this construction made part of the cue a composite material. This gives great strength because the grains, or directions of weakness, likely are not aligned. Think plywood. It also decreases the probability of warping. Points at the business end of the cue, though less common, have the same effect.
Jon,
I was interested in cues long before I stated making them.
While I was hustling pool in Denver and living in Boulder I ordered a lot of cues for people in the Fun Center Pool room from Herman Rambo. I also put on tips and linen wraps by hand in a back room in the pool room.
I was playing with a Balabushka cue similar to the one Cowboy Jimmy Moore had.
It seemed to me at the time that custom cues were very hard to come by and the wait for repairs was way too long.
On a road trip to the Carolinas Danny and I had numerous discussions about that very subject.
Several months later I called Danny and said "lets make cues". He agreed.
I left Aspen and moved to Baltimore. We started Joss Cues. Never looked back.
Bill S.
I used to run squares of Maple for points thru the table saw without a clamp of any sort. Danny would watch in disbelief. Never cut myself.
I have always been lucky.
Bill S.