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Ebony finish question - 12-18-2019, 03:25 PM

I received my new cue yesterday and i was a little bit disapointed with the final look of one side of the ebony. I dont know much about this exotic wood, does it looks ok to you?
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12-18-2019, 03:32 PM

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I received my new cue yesterday and i was a little bit disapointed with the final look of one side of the ebony. I dont know much about this exotic wood, does it looks ok to you?
Hello Luchius
Did you talk to the Cue maker?
Could you be more specific with your question?
What were you hoping for versus what you recieved?
All of the above is a great place to start. Especially with the Cue maker.
Forum opinions can leave a lot to be desired.


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12-18-2019, 03:54 PM

I was surprised about the marks in the black part of the cue. I never saw what eboby grain is supposed to looks like. The cuemaker said everything is fine been rude and acting like i am an idiot to ask.
  
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12-18-2019, 04:24 PM

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I was surprised about the marks in the black part of the cue. I never saw what eboby grain is supposed to looks like. The cuemaker said everything is fine been rude and acting like i am an idiot to ask.
Thank you for being more specific.
Ebony varies quite a bit from piece to piece. It really is a tough action wood. Most think it's jet black and that's it. Some of it is but far from all of it. Gaboon can have patches in it that's still black but the shades are different.
Other variations can be brown with black streaks. I'm going to guess that you were expecting pure black tight grained Gaboon. It might have done you well if it was explained when you ordered.


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12-18-2019, 08:02 PM

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I was surprised about the marks in the black part of the cue. I never saw what eboby grain is supposed to looks like. The cuemaker said everything is fine been rude and acting like i am an idiot to ask.
Looks more like problems under the finish, then difference in the ebony. But it's hard to tell for sure in your pic.
  
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12-18-2019, 09:15 PM

Ebony= Natural variables.

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12-19-2019, 12:03 AM

Now that i've not seen.
Chosen for the green color, or is it the light, or what?
Is it actually diosporos, or is it something "marketed" as ebony?

I'm only a sporadic maker of simple cues, but have handled a lot of lumber in my life.

Curious minds want to know, and my wife says i have a very curious mind.


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PS, I tend to agree on the OP Q about the comment regarding finish.
But nobody looking at pictures can really make a determination.
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12-19-2019, 03:17 AM

So much for trying to stay positive. Lol
Can you take pictures of the cue out in the sun light. I added lite to your picture. It's strange.

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12-19-2019, 08:11 AM

that's not how it is supposed to look......... there might be a problem with adhesion in the finish



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12-19-2019, 09:45 AM

Looks like the finish might be lifting? CA finish?
As for the colour of ebony, it can vary quite a bit. Personally I'm not a huge fan of the totally jet black stuff, it tends to look like plastic.



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12-19-2019, 01:27 PM

Might look exactly as the cue builder intended.

Looks funky to me though. I can see why you're disappointed.
  
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12-19-2019, 03:11 PM

Could be be a rare type of enhanced and sanded through in spots ebony.

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Ebony--Gaboon - 12-19-2019, 05:32 PM

One of the recent problems with Gaboon Ebony is that Bob Taylor of Taylor guitars has a virtual monopoly on it. He has contracted with the government
to purchase ALL cut ebony without the logs being split open to see how dense a blackness it was. Used to be they would fell a tree, split it, and if it wasn't "dead" black it was left to rot as the buyers only wanted the "dead" black logs.
Taylor, being ecologically minded, knew that GE had the same mechanical quantities he was looking for in a fret board irregardless of the color. If you buy a Taylor guitar, and they are not cheap, the fret board might have brown streaks in it. This is the trade off between brown streaked GB and no GB at all.
Stewart-McDonalds's sells a black, oil based, stain specifically for fret boards.
It works just fine on pool cues as well.
With all that said GB is difficult to seal and a few coats of CA glue usually does the trick.


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12-19-2019, 06:54 PM

Gaboon is just a pain in the jazz to work with.
It takes a lot of acetone to make it ready for epoxy coat then finish.
This CA does help but that's also a trick and might get yellowish later on.

There is an expensive sealer for it that Dick Neighbors used to tout.
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12-19-2019, 07:21 PM

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Gaboon is just a pain in the jazz to work with.
It takes a lot of acetone to make it ready for epoxy coat then finish.
This CA does help but that's also a trick and might get yellowish later on.

There is an expensive sealer for it that Dick Neighbors used to tout.
Way tooo expensive.
what sealer is that ??
  
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