Was watching a youtube video about free throws and saw this. www.solidshot.com
A way to evaluate a pool stroke?
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Someone recommended this site once. I haven't tried it.
www.coachseye.com
www.coachseye.com
Dave...Coach's Eye is great software, and is currently being using by several of our instructors, as part of their video analysis. It's also quite inexpensive. 
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
I have been using an app called Technique by Hudle. http://www.hudl.com/products/technique
I like it.
I like it.
So after going to their website and seeing this I contacted them and suggested that they create an app for billiards specifically.
I received a very quick response back from someone named Scooter Barry that they are "looking for partners that add value in developing, manufacturing and distributing that particular product."
So some of you app programmers/designers should get in touch with him and see what you can do as I see this arm sleeve being several levels above something like the Q+ or the OB device (to be released). With this you can have the monitors on all major planes of the arm, possibly wrist and can most likely use it to detect speed in addition to good form.
scooter@solidshot.com
I only ask to be a part of the beta and to get a free final version as a "hookup commission". :smile:
I definitely dont have the skills so I posted it here hoping those that do would do something like that. Good on you Skippy, thanks for the response.
Scooter Barry sounds like Rick Barry,the Hall-of-Fame NBA Superstar for the Warrior's Son! Rick was one of the Best Basketball Players,and Free Throw Shooters,in History! I've got to check it out. If he has 10% of his Dad's skill,he is a Monster! Two of his Brothers players in the NBA,with one winning the Dunk Contest. I can't wait to see how this applies to a great Pool Stroke.
Video Analysis is a great tool for Pool.. Using 3 or more cameras makes it easy to capture the action & play it back in slow motion. Stroke Analyzer has a software kit for $100.00 The cameras are extra.
You can use your own camera & load the video into Kinovea, for some great slow motion results. Kinovea gets real deep into the analytics, if you want to take the next step.
If a picture is worth a thousand words, a video has to be worth a billion words.
Using video technology, along with a coach or instructor, has to be the greatest way to learn a game like Pool or Golf. We were using video in 1970, at Colonial Country Club, to give lessons on the practice tee. Making it possible for someone to see themselves do physical activity, makes it a hundred times easier to communicate an idea or thought.
Good Luck...
You can use your own camera & load the video into Kinovea, for some great slow motion results. Kinovea gets real deep into the analytics, if you want to take the next step.
If a picture is worth a thousand words, a video has to be worth a billion words.
Using video technology, along with a coach or instructor, has to be the greatest way to learn a game like Pool or Golf. We were using video in 1970, at Colonial Country Club, to give lessons on the practice tee. Making it possible for someone to see themselves do physical activity, makes it a hundred times easier to communicate an idea or thought.
Good Luck...
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Check out DigiCue, a personal coach that you slip onto the butt of your cue...
https://www.obcues.com/products/DIGICUE-Training-Aid.html
https://www.obcues.com/products/DIGICUE-Training-Aid.html
I feel this sleeve is much more complex and relevant to the pool stroke then any other product that I have seen.
Skippy has the right idea about getting the company to adapt this product to pool.
It has feedback just like ob. Looks at the swing of the arm, wrist, and shoulder with more accuracy then the camera products.
I am aware of the products pointed out as they have been posted here already.
This sleeve is the most innovative product that I have seen.
Skippy has the right idea about getting the company to adapt this product to pool.
It has feedback just like ob. Looks at the swing of the arm, wrist, and shoulder with more accuracy then the camera products.
I am aware of the products pointed out as they have been posted here already.
This sleeve is the most innovative product that I have seen.
I will have to check this out. Maybe you should consider working with the maker of the sleeve so a lot of your measuremens can be done automatically.
Beep. Your stroke is bad. Really? Whats wrong with it? hmmm??? I havent seen or used that slip on gadget, but to me a beep is not good enough information to make it useful. Thats my personal opinion.
I designed and integrated an accelerometer into StrokeAnalyzer. It attaches to the back of the cue. Yes it has a cable. The info obtained can show exactly what the stroke flaw is, as 3 axis of information is acquired. The information is MUCH more detailed than a video. Typical video frame rates are 60 frames per second. That's 1 frame every 17ms. The accelerometer data rate can be as high as every 2msec. Thats 8 times faster. Approaching high speed video rates.
It would be nice to have a wireless connection, but there hasnt been enough interest to justify the effort to make it wireless.
Cheers
Bob
I designed and integrated an accelerometer into StrokeAnalyzer. It attaches to the back of the cue. Yes it has a cable. The info obtained can show exactly what the stroke flaw is, as 3 axis of information is acquired. The information is MUCH more detailed than a video. Typical video frame rates are 60 frames per second. That's 1 frame every 17ms. The accelerometer data rate can be as high as every 2msec. Thats 8 times faster. Approaching high speed video rates.
It would be nice to have a wireless connection, but there hasnt been enough interest to justify the effort to make it wireless.
Cheers
Bob
Maybe you could post a video showing the usage of the Stroke Analyzer coupled with the ACCLEROMETER... that would be great to see.
Is the whole setup hooked to a computer. Can you use "mirroring" with the setup, to "have a larger TV screen on the end rail...? That would allow instant visual analysis without moving away from the address position...? Maybe, if an assistant was helping out...?
Is the whole setup hooked to a computer. Can you use "mirroring" with the setup, to "have a larger TV screen on the end rail...? That would allow instant visual analysis without moving away from the address position...? Maybe, if an assistant was helping out...?
I would agree about the beep. It is one of the things about the Q+ I don't like, but it works on a phone so......
It would be great if your accelerometer was Bluetooth, but being I haven't used it I can't say it having a cable is really a downfall either.
I will get and try this when my play money is no longer tied up for other things. It will probably be a few months though.
Here's a link to a wireless measuring system that interfaces with a laptop - http://www.thesnookergym.com/cue-action-recorder/
This one is strapped to your wrist. It seems to be limited to measuring the acceleration of your stroke to help you develop smoothness. Rather pricy however for what it does.
This one is strapped to your wrist. It seems to be limited to measuring the acceleration of your stroke to help you develop smoothness. Rather pricy however for what it does.