Gambling With Someone That Can't Afford To Lose (long)

Get_A_Grip

Truth Will Set You Free
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I thought ATM's gave out money in variables of $20. Did it give him 2 $20's and a $10 or a $50 bill?

Remember, he actually went to the ATM TWICE for $50 each. That's also why I thought that he had the next $50 on him. Because who goes to the ATM and only takes the $50 you owe, and pays the $2.50 fee, then loses another $50, and then goes and takes out another $50 with another $2.50 fee? I'll tell you who. Someone who wanted to leave at least $50 in their account, but then gambled that away too.




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pt109

WO double hemlock
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Im not wired like that either...do something nice for the guy and dont say shit...just pay his time one night or if theres an all day rate pay his so when he walks in and it's on the house he'll know in his mind where it came from. You dont owe him a thing but truth is you owe it to yourself to set it right. If you've played months with a guy it cant be all about the money...go with the humanity that your gut is telling you

I like this post....been there

It’s why I preferred gambling with people in the life
 

Icon of Sin

I can't fold, I need gold. I re-up and reload...
Silver Member
You cant be responsible for his lack of responsibility. If he wants to play for money, as long as he can pay you, then play him. Knowing his financial status I wouldnt take an IOU on an air barrell, regardless of him making good on it.
 

pvc lou

AzB Silver Member
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You keep saying this, but I'm inclined to agree with Bob Jewett...how do we know he's flat broke? You believe the story you've invented in your head, which is plausible, but still speculation as far as I can tell.

Remember, he actually went to the ATM TWICE for $50 each. That's also why I thought that he had the next $50 on him. Because who goes to the ATM and only takes the $50 you owe, and pays the $2.50 fee, then loses another $50, and then goes and takes out another $50 with another $2.50 fee? I'll tell you who. Someone who wanted to leave at least $50 in their account, but then gambled that away too.




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Get_A_Grip

Truth Will Set You Free
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You keep saying this, but I'm inclined to agree with Bob Jewett...how do we know he's flat broke? You believe the story you've invented in your head, which is plausible, but still speculation as far as I can tell.

You and Bob are either on drugs, or in your own little bubble. I'll let the two of you figure it out.




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rossaroni

AzB Gold Member
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Remember, he actually went to the ATM TWICE for $50 each. That's also why I thought that he had the next $50 on him. Because who goes to the ATM and only takes the $50 you owe, and pays the $2.50 fee, then loses another $50, and then goes and takes out another $50 with another $2.50 fee? I'll tell you who. Someone who wanted to leave at least $50 in their account, but then gambled that away too.




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Not saying he is dead broke or not...not really my concern. However, I know people who do goofy things like he did, and they are not broke. A friend a mine will go to the bar, and use the atm 4 times a night....only lets you take out 200 at a time. On the way to the bar, he will pass 5 atm machines that would be free, and he can take out all the money he will need in 1 transaction. Also, he knows I will give him whatever he wants, and sometimes he will get it from me, and other times he will choose to pay the atm fee, after I offer to borrow the money to save the fees. To each their own, I guess.

Your opponents situation may be way different then other people, and he is probably broke....but reading this reminded me of my friends weird atm habits. Haha
 

misterpoole

AzB Silver Member
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Get_a_grip get a therapist.
You are feeling guilty after fabricating this sad story. Here is what your imagination concluded

I think he literally gambled every last dollar that he had!
just feels weird when you're the person chosen to take someone's very last dime.
it became apparent that that was the last of the money that he had in the bank too!
and he apparently cleaned out the last $50 that he has to his name.
I'm guessing that he only took out $50 the first time because he only had $50 left and he didn't want to
spend every last dime that he had.
I'm guessing that he'll now be needing to borrow money from someone else before the end of the month
or until his next check.
It's the first time someone spent every last dime that they had to pay to me,
He's busted until his next check

And this is after a few $50 sets?
 
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Get_A_Grip

Truth Will Set You Free
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Get_a_grip get a therapist.
You are feeling guilty after fabricating this sad story. Here is what your imagination concluded

I think he literally gambled every last dollar that he had!
just feels weird when you're the person chosen to take someone's very last dime.
it became apparent that that was the last of the money that he had in the bank too!
and he apparently cleaned out the last $50 that he has to his name.
I'm guessing that he only took out $50 the first time because he only had $50 left and he didn't want to
spend every last dime that he had.
I'm guessing that he'll now be needing to borrow money from someone else before the end of the month
or until his next check.
It's the first time someone spent every last dime that they had to pay to me,
He's busted until his next check

And this is after a few $50 sets?

I didn't fabricate anything. The guy literally told me that he was totally broke, as I have indicated. Why would someone say that and make it up? They wouldn't. He wanted to keep playing until he took his last $50 out of the ATM.

In fact, tonight I was at the same place. At least 3 people that know him told me that he always does stuff like that and gambles until he's broke.

The guy literally is loosing his teeth and apparently can't afford to get fake teeth put in.

Yes, he gave me every dime that he had. Deal with it.


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Get_A_Grip

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There was a thread recently about the AZ forums going down hill. Well, if pool players read this story and can't realize that it is not only very plausible, but highly likely, I don't know what to tell you.

I tried to share what I thought was an interesting real-life gambling story, and second-guessers are coming out of the woodwork.

I've been playing with this guy for over a year, and you actually think this guy has thousands of dollars squirreled away at home or in the bank. Give me a break. Hilarious.

Actually, this thread is starting to remind me of a thread that I posted years ago about being strong-armed over what amounted to $13. Later in the thread, I ended up having to defend all kinds of crazy assertions that should have all been clear had people just read what I wrote.

So with that, this thread is over as far as I am concerned.
 
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RiverCity

AzB Silver Member
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Why would someone say that and make it up?

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pvc lou

AzB Silver Member
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Not trying to put you down, Get_A_Grip, but rather help you figure this thing out. It's just that you say he doesn't have a single dime left to his name after the last 50...that's a very specific amount for him to have in his account. I'm saying, maybe he's just feeding you a sob story, because you spanked that ass. He's moving on you, buddy. Like when an old player asks you to take it easy on an old man, and then robs you...looking all satisfied about pulling a fast one on you. Anyway, we're trying to help, don't get all defensive. gosh! lol ;)

There was a thread recently about the AZ forums going down hill. Well, if pool players read this story and can't realize that it is not only very plausible, but highly likely, I don't know what to tell you.

I tried to share what I thought was an interesting real-life gambling story, and second-guessers are coming out of the woodwork.

I've been playing with this guy for over a year, and you actually think this guy has thousands of dollars squirreled away at home or in the bank. Give me a break. Hilarious.

Actually, this thread is starting to remind me of a thread that I posted years ago about being strong-armed over what amounted to $13. Later in the thread, I ended up having to defend all kinds of crazy assertions that should have all been clear had people just read what I wrote.

So with that, this thread is over as far as I am concerned.
 

Get_A_Grip

Truth Will Set You Free
Silver Member
I wonder if he'll ask for weight next time you meet.

He won't. He hasn't for a year and I've been beating him about 4 out of every 5 times we play.

He usually insists on smaller bets and really short races to no more than 5. This is the first time that he asked to play for more (even though only for $50) and a longer race to 9.

When he said a race to 9, he said it as if he thought that that would give him an advantage.

This guy plays for money every weekend. Either with me, or at someone's house with a group of guys.

In over a year, this is also the first time that's he's stormed off mad without saying a thing.


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buttnkdwonder

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You're not his accountant, you're a guy he gambles with. It's not your responsibility to worry about his bank account or what he's doing with his money, but if you're this worried about his financial situation after breaking him for the equivalent of a water bill then you might be better off not gambling altogether.
 

Get_A_Grip

Truth Will Set You Free
Silver Member
You're not his accountant, you're a guy he gambles with. It's not your responsibility to worry about his bank account or what he's doing with his money, but if you're this worried about his financial situation after breaking him for the equivalent of a water bill then you might be better off not gambling altogether.

I'm not that worked up about it. That is what is being blown out of proportion. Sure, I feel a little guilty. It's the first time someone gambled away what appears to be more than they could afford to lose.

But after talking with some people last night, it sounds like he never has any money and that he does this all of the time. Just the first time with me.

The thing about money is that it's relative. For a guy that never has any money, gambling for $20 a set is enough to give him a rush, if all he has in his account is $150.

This time he decided to play for $50 a set, when all he had was $150, and he got burned.
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K2Kraze

AzB Silver Member
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This thread topic is always an interesting read -

A man and his money.

Every reply from fellow AZB’ers and posts (by the OP) so far have valid points. Every single one of them. Nothing new for sure.

The one thing I know without doubt and worth sharing is that it takes one hell of a person to play poorly and lose money on top of it - having to pay AFTER the game is over - AND do so graciously. Am I the only one?

In a perfect gentlemanly world of wagering, it would be nice for the guy to offer the cash with a smile and say “here you go - you played well”. No excuses. No reflection on how he played. He wagered and thought he could win. The casinos have one thing perfected: pay up before you play (exchange cash for chips) and not after.

Money will come and go. It’s the attitudes and belief system about money one has that come and stay. He revealed his.

~ K.
 

iusedtoberich

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Broke or not it’s hard to find action these days compared to 20 years ago. You might be the player that gives this player reason to play and work on his game. It sounds like you two are in the same league of speed, but you’re a half step ahead of him.

I’d say keep playing him. The sessions with you probably keep him awake at night and drive him. Don’t take away his reason to keep playing our game. So many players quit because all the action dried up.

The broke part doesn’t matter. I’m surprised you haven’t seen it before. I know many guys who would work like dogs 70 hrs a week, come in on payday Friday night, and be borrowing $40 by sat morbing, after we were all done gambling at pool or cards. Week after week after week.

They always came back. Your man will be back also, with money to play.

Btw having money in atm is the same as having cash on you. I don’t consider that a lie.

Also, I know several ppl who would take out 50 or 60 from the atm inside the poolroom after each set, and pay the $3 fee each time. Instead of taking a few hundred. It’s just how their brain is wired. It’s no big deal.

Oh as far as atm denomination, I lost 300 to a regular match one time and went to the bank atm (same parking lot as pool room) to get the cash. No lie, the machine paid me in 5s and 10s. It was the only time anything like that ever happened. I went back to pay him and we were both laughing about it.
 
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