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Help Identify Cue Wood - 06-30-2019, 09:06 PM

Aloha all,

I picked up this Mike Gulyassy cue today and it is made of some kind of wood with a very unusual and unique grain.

Please check out his link and help me identify what kind of wood it is.

Thank you.

https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=496061

It looks very similar to this:

https://www.rarewoodsusa.com/product/ebony-black-white/

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07-01-2019, 05:48 AM

My initial thought is lightly figured black and white ebony.


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07-01-2019, 09:42 AM

It reminds me of spalted hickory. It's either that or pussy-willow.

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07-01-2019, 10:39 AM

Per Mr. Gulyassy.
It's called Pale moon Ebony.


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07-01-2019, 07:29 PM

Thanks for the help, guys.

I talked to Mike today and sent him some pictures.

He said it was black and white ebony.

Now that I know what kind of wood it is, I'd like to see some more cues made of this stuff. I really like the look of the wood.
  
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07-01-2019, 11:26 PM

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Thanks for the help, guys.

I talked to Mike today and sent him some pictures.

He said it was black and white ebony.

Now that I know what kind of wood it is, I'd like to see some more cues made of this stuff. I really like the look of the wood.

It would be nice to see some figured.


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07-02-2019, 08:39 AM

Here's something that I picked up last year. The seller called it ebony burl.
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07-02-2019, 09:41 AM

It's a very attractive and unusual cue, but the wood is not burl.

Technically it looks to be waney edge gabon ebony. IOW, cut from (what would in the old days be reject material) right on the margin between sapwood and heartwood that may originally (on the blank) have included bark. Today, such features (partial sapwood) are sought after in many species for everything from tables and furniture, to pens and cues. As can be seen in your cue, it provides a distinctive & interesting effect.

The reason technically trained woodworkers tended to avoid such constructions in the old daze is the pull inherent in the wood due to the different densities tending to warp it. Modern coring technique allows the use of this kind or feature with good stability.

I have some very curly gabon ebony chunks acquired by accident/serendipity when making inlaid floors for the VP's offices in DC a dozen years ago. It is disappointing because as soon as you apply finish to the wood, it (it = burl and curl) all disappears and looks like a piece of solid plastic.

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07-02-2019, 10:13 AM

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It's a very attractive and unusual cue, but the wood is not burl.
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The seller called it burl. I didn't think so, just thought it was interesting. Thanks


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07-02-2019, 11:09 AM

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It would be nice to see some figured.
here is mine (obviously made by dave B.) :
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07-02-2019, 11:31 AM

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The seller called it burl. I didn't think so, just thought it was interesting. Thanks
So called Black and white ebony in its typical form.

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07-02-2019, 01:36 PM

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here is mine (obviously made by dave B.) :

Anything by Mr. B. Tops the chart. Congrats.


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07-02-2019, 10:05 PM

DaveM's cue does not look like W & B, it looks like gabon with partial sapwood. (nice effect.) W & B is a different species of ebony and looks like erriep's cue. Thin lines of black tracery throughout a lighter color background. Somewhat like a good cut of ziricote regarding the black streak patterns. Background wood of ziricote being much darker, though.

PS, some Gabon also has white or light colored streaks/inclusions in the heartwood (which is some of the effect in the black portion of DaveM's cue). I've had smallish offcuts. I've personally never had a chance (contract) to use the true W & B.

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Wood samples - 07-03-2019, 11:01 AM

Here's some samples of what gets called W/B

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07-03-2019, 11:20 AM

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Here's some samples of what gets called W/B

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