Great way to start the NEW YEAR! GC6!!!

trentfromtoledo

8onthebreaktoledo
Silver Member
Great way to start the year!

Brand New GC6 Headed to its new home in Indiana!

These tables are a PLEASURE to install.

More pics to follow.

TFT:thumbup:
 

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muskyed

AzB Silver Member
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Great start for you, but an even better start for the person getting it. Someone is going to be happy.
 

trentfromtoledo

8onthebreaktoledo
Silver Member
Came out awesome!! Such a pleasure. They take time to get everything lined up right, but, so worth it. Castings all sitting nice and flush. Simonis tight enough to breakdance on! Even had sparking water on tap!! Long day and lots of hard work and driving. So blessed with such great clients.

TFT
 

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realkingcobra

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Silver Member
Finished pictures are always great, but they show nothing of the work you put in to set the table up. The finished pictures are no different than anyone elses finished pictures, they just show the same table in different settings by different installers.

Wheres the pictures of the cloth install work you did ok n the rails, so that people can see the quality of your craftsmanship? How about the bed cloth install, pocket finishing work? What about the slate seam finishing? How about the leveling? What sets YOUR work apart from anyone elses install work, or are you just marketing for future sales?
 

trentfromtoledo

8onthebreaktoledo
Silver Member
I am on the job to do my work: not to "document" my work.
People hire me because I do a good job. I use the proper tools
and techniques to set up all the tables I sell. Am I perfect, no.
Do I work hard and do my best, YES. Are my customers happy? YES!

Just for you I will explain in detail what we did: carefully
unloaded all of our tools and laid out blankets in our tool
area, then unloaded the table, unpacked everything, carefully
built the top(lining up the castings so they are square and flush
takes TIME), built the base/ frame, used a starrett 98-12" machinist
level to level the frame and then added the center slate/ leveled, then
leveled again with the end slates on, lined up our seams, then used
3 liquid dowels on each of the slate seams, prepped and bondo'd the
seams/ sanded them nice an smooth, laid out the Marine colored Simonis
bedcloth and installed it using your indexing method, used your french
fold w/ pipe strapping to finish the pockets, put the top on/ made sure
it was square and bolted it down, added lil ball storage box( which installs
weird, but, works!), put in the drop pockets with bosse set screws & star
washers, installed the rack holder & the bridge holders and finally added
the spot. Then checked the level again and made some very small left to
right adjustments.

We spent about 8 hours on site carefully building this table. Our customer
was super fun to chat with and very happy with the result of our work.

Thanks RKC!

TFT

P.s. I am ALWAYS marketing for future sales. Why you ask? IT IS MY JOB!
 
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realkingcobra

Well-known member
Silver Member
I am on the job to do my work: not to "document" my work.
People hire me because I do a good job. I use the proper tools
and techniques to set up all the tables I sell. Am I perfect, no.
Do I work hard and do my best, YES. Are my customers happy? YES!

Just for you I will explain in detail what we did: carefully
unloaded all of our tools and laid out blankets in our tool
area, then unloaded the table, unpacked everything, carefully
built the top(lining up the castings so they are square and flush
takes TIME), built the base/ frame, used a starrett 98-12" machinist
level to level the frame and then added the center slate/ leveled, then
leveled again with the end slates on, lined up our seams, then used
3 liquid dowels on each of the slate seams, prepped and bondo'd the
seams/ sanded them nice an smooth, laid out the Marine colored Simonis
bedcloth and installed it using your indexing method, used your french
fold w/ pipe strapping to finish the pockets, put the top on/ made sure
it was square and bolted it down, added lil ball storage box( which installs
weird, but, works!), put in the drop pockets with bosse set screws & star
washers, installed the rack holder & the bridge holders and finally added
the spot. Then checked the level again and made some very small left to
right adjustments.

We spent about 8 hours on site carefully building this table. Our customer
was super fun to chat with and very happy with the result of our work.

Thanks RKC!

TFT

P.s. I am ALWAYS marketing for future sales. Why you ask? IT IS MY JOB!

You just don't get it. If you don't show the work you do, then you're showing nothing for anyone to learn from. Showing the same old boring pictures of an assembled pool table that has been seen a 100 times already don't do nothing for anyone. To me it's like, OH look, Trent set up another pool table....big deal! Looks just like the other ones he's set up, nothing different!!

Are you afraid of showing your skilled cloth install work? Are you afraid someone might suggest a better way of doing something? "My customers are always happy" is redundant....like the same beat on a drum,

10 different installers, including some hacks I know of, could set tables up and the pictures of THEIR work would look just like YOUR pictures you posted....what makes YOUR install work any different if the outcome looks exactly the same????
 

realkingcobra

Well-known member
Silver Member
It's the unseen work that tells the truth about an installers skill level, NOT the finished pictures!!
 

trentfromtoledo

8onthebreaktoledo
Silver Member
No need to argue with you.

I am not here to please anyone.

Some people like to see some of my finished work.

If you want to spend time taking pics of your work and
posting them: WE ALL WOULD LOVE IT!

I love what I do and like sharing on the forum :)

That is all I got for ya today you rowdy ole snake!! :thumbup:

TFT

GC6 sure is a pretty sight :)

P.s. that ugly 8 ball rack will be gone as soon as I get his Diamond
composite rack sent out!!! Forgot the bridge head too , DOH! Had
all the other accessories drop shipped, I said I was not perfect LOL
 

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realkingcobra

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Silver Member
No need to argue with you.

I am not here to please anyone.

Some people like to see some of my finished work.

If you want to spend time taking pics of your work and
posting them: WE ALL WOULD LOVE IT!

I love what I do and like sharing on the forum :)

That is all I got for ya today you rowdy ole snake!! :thumbup:

TFT

GC6 sure is a pretty sight :)

Tell me something, if I posted pictures like you do, what would YOU or ANYONE else for that matter would have learned from in all the threads I've started over all the years I've been posting here? Mark Gregory is right, I shouldn't have come on AZB with the intent of showing anyone anything, because you installers only know how to suck up my knowledge and use it, because you FAIL to pass it along.

This is a monkey see monkey do classroom, that's how others learn. All I see YOUR monkey doing is standing in a corner posing saying look at me, "I'm all about sales, not teaching and passing it along"

This thread belongs in the for sale forums as far as I'm concerned, because it don't have a damn thing to do with "talk to a mechanic" or teaching ANYONE anything.

This is the very reason I've pretty much stopped explaining things about pool tables in this forum....because I'm the only one that does....why is that? To make you a better salesman???
 

trentfromtoledo

8onthebreaktoledo
Silver Member
You have said it yourself many times: The search option is there. All of the information is RIGHT HERE IN THE FORUM. People ask questions and when they do, I try to answer them if I can.

"This area is for questions for and conversation between table mechanics"

People like to "chat" in these forums. If people don't post anything, there will never be any conversation.

As much as you have contributed, I am not sure why you would want me regurgitating your methods??

I practice them, appreciate that you have shared them and I have made that perfectly clear.

I am in business and NEWSFLASH: so is every single installer/ mechanic that posts in here. :eek:


TFT
 

trentfromtoledo

8onthebreaktoledo
Silver Member
Just to be clear, here is what we did:

Just for you I will explain in detail what we did: carefully
unloaded all of our tools and laid out blankets in our tool
area, then unloaded the table, unpacked everything, carefully
built the top(lining up the castings so they are square and flush
takes TIME), built the base/ frame, used a starrett 98-12" machinist
level to level the frame and then added the center slate/ leveled, then
leveled again with the end slates on, lined up our seams, then used
3 liquid dowels on each of the slate seams, prepped and bondo'd the
seams/ sanded them nice an smooth, laid out the Marine colored Simonis
bedcloth and installed it using your indexing method, used your french
fold w/ pipe strapping to finish the pockets, put the top on/ made sure
it was square and bolted it down, added lil ball storage box( which installs
weird, but, works!), put in the drop pockets with bosse set screws & star
washers, installed the rack holder & the bridge holders and finally added
the spot. Then checked the level again and made some very small left to
right adjustments.

:thumbup:

TFT
 

realkingcobra

Well-known member
Silver Member
You have said it yourself many times: The search option is there. All of the information is RIGHT HERE IN THE FORUM. People ask questions and when they do, I try to answer them if I can.

"This area is for questions for and conversation between table mechanics"

People like to "chat" in these forums. If people don't post anything, there will never be any conversation.

As much as you have contributed, I am not sure why you would want me regurgitating your methods??

I practice them, appreciate that you have shared them and I have made that perfectly clear.

I am in business and NEWSFLASH: so is every single installer/ mechanic that posts in here. :eek:


TFT

NEWSFLASH.....no other installer or mechanic uses this forum as a personal forsale section, but just imagine if they did! This forum would be flooded selling pool tables!!

Good thing there's a forsale section!!!
 

trentfromtoledo

8onthebreaktoledo
Silver Member
NEWSFLASH.....no other installer or mechanic uses this forum as a personal forsale section, but just imagine if they did! This forum would be flooded selling pool tables!!

Good thing there's a forsale section!!!

Stop being so dramatic. There is this concept that is very, very simple:

If you don't like it, simply don't look at it.

I would understand if I posted every table project I took on. That is not the case. This is a GC6 and not the "everyday table". To me this is an HONOR and PRIVILEGE to sell & install one of these as my first table of the year.

You know I respect you and look up to you. I have been VERY clear about where and who most of my knowledge came from. At the end of the day though, I had to seek out the knowledge, practice it and I created my business. I am very proud of my work.


TFT
 
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