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06-11-2019, 03:48 PM

I've heard many times the Grosgrain Ribbon theory. I tend to think not.

To put a lacquer finish over that fabric, the fabric would keep on sucking it up. I can't picture that being doable or practical. Maybe with a clear acrylic plastic surface over it, but I think that's not the answer, given photos of these.

I still tend to give more credibility to the foil wrappers, candy wrappers, crepe paper, something that could be layered and finished easily with a few coats.

Yes, still a mystery.

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06-12-2019, 02:46 AM

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This stuff lgsm3?
A 2 second glance says that is not the correct stuff.


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06-12-2019, 08:40 AM

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Jake, So you're saying you think the material George used was made of cloth? That's what grosgrain is so... Have you seen the original material? There is no visible cloth thread. It's solid, like a foil of some sort, then covered in a layer of flexible plastic and cloth backed.
and or connected to cloth....when finished over, the majority of all the ribbons i've tried, the fibers tend to disappear against black surface and epoxy penetration.

the closest i've gotten to what looks real is ribbon with an edge treatment on it thats semi ridgid. Basically the metallic edge can be removed and the other portion of the ribbon discarded. I've not put it on a piece of wood and finished over it though.
  
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06-12-2019, 11:57 AM

George shared many things with me when I was in Aspen.
Methods and materials.
The day his father died we talked for two hours.
I donít think he would have lied to me about anything.

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06-12-2019, 12:24 PM

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George shared many things with me when I was in Aspen.
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06-12-2019, 12:34 PM

The Elephant in the room:

That glitter ring is fugly.


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06-12-2019, 03:34 PM

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The Elephant in the room:

That glitter ring is fugly.
One mans fugly is another mans wife ..


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06-12-2019, 04:24 PM

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George shared many things with me when I was in Aspen.
Methods and materials.
The day his father died we talked for two hours.
I donít think he would have lied to me about anything.

The simple solution is most often the correct solution.

Bill Stroud
A casual search does give some good info on candy wrappers. These are available today. They do show a good gold glitter. They don't tend to show the horizontal pattern on George's cues, but these still look like something that could have been used decades ago.

I don't see George going after fabric Grosgrain ribbons to do these. I just don't. I can't imagine putting finish on it that time. George, as far as I know, used spray lacquer, which would have been a bear to finish on Grosgrain. On a foil paper such as this, cemented together with several layers, or a backing, I can see that. Much easier to finish. Decades ago, the pattern may have been a bit different, but looks pretty similar, doesn't it...

I did give the opinion that glittery crepe paper may have been the material. I still think that may be possible, but I have a feeling Bill's memory on this beats the rest of us.

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