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The old Viking "Super Joint" - 06-24-2019, 12:05 PM

I'd like to know a lot more about the Viking "Super Joint." So, I'm turning it over to the years of experience and expertise found right here.

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06-24-2019, 03:51 PM

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I'd like to know a lot more about the Viking "Super Joint." So, I'm turning it over to the years of experience and expertise found right here.

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Hi Boxcar
Quite simple actually. It's a double threaded screw. 2 different thicknesses with matching inserts. They are machined in house at Viking cues. I have a couple of the inserts and can post a picture if you need me too.


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06-24-2019, 03:55 PM

The super joint was invented in the early 1950's by a little known cue maker named Clark Kent.
He worked in a small shop with a helper named Jimmy Olson.


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06-24-2019, 04:07 PM

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Hi Boxcar
Quite simple actually. It's a double threaded screw. 2 different thicknesses with matching inserts. They are machined in house at Viking cues. I have a couple of the inserts and can post a picture if you need me too.
I would absolutely love to see a picture, or 7 pictures for that matter. Is Viking still machining the parts?

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06-24-2019, 04:12 PM

It's not on their current cue repair form. I would call and ask about it to know for sure.

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06-24-2019, 04:56 PM

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I would absolutely love to see a picture, or 7 pictures for that matter. Is Viking still machining the parts?

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I'll post them later tonight. 9/16x18 outside and 5/16x18 inside. Yes, they still make them.


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06-24-2019, 05:30 PM

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It's not on their current cue repair form. I would call and ask about it to know for sure.

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Absolutely. Good advice as always.

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Absolutely. Good advice as always.

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Thank you very much!

Wow! OK, so the outer thread is like a threaded "pilot" and the inner (female) threaded hole receives the pin??? So you have the shaft part, right. The butt portion then, must have the pin and complementary threads to receive the outer threaded pilot??? Is that right? How deep is the seat for the butt portion?

Are they prone to breakage? Is the Super Joint a great idea that really isn't such a great idea? How is there room for decoration. Are the wood walls so thin they are weak?

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06-24-2019, 06:04 PM

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Thank you very much!

Wow! OK, so the outer thread is like a threaded "pilot" and the inner (female) threaded hole receives the pin??? So you have the shaft part, right. The butt portion then, must have the pin and complementary threads to receive the outer threaded pilot??? Is that right? How deep is the seat for the butt portion?

Are they prone to breakage? Is the Super Joint a great idea that really isn't such a great idea? How is there room decoration. Are the wood walls so thin they are weak?

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Your welcome.
I haven't seen one break yet. It's a piloted joint. Those other questions are not for me to say. I don't judge or condemn, I accept.


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Your welcome.
I haven't seen one break yet. It's a piloted joint. Those other questions are not for me to say. I don't judge or condemn, I accept.
So sayeth the wise man.

Michael, thank you for your help.

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06-24-2019, 09:29 PM

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Absolutely. Good advice as always.

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Thanks!

Never saw the raw parts before.

I have seen some they have done as repairs or extra shafts for old cues. They looked shorter. Not sure if that is just what I have seen or if the newer version is consistently shorter than the original.

If they ever stop making them, anything like that can be replicated if the machinist is willing and the customer is willing to pay.


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06-25-2019, 08:06 AM

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Was Lois allowed to handle that magnificent joint?
Lois would polish their joints.


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06-26-2019, 01:48 AM

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If they ever stop making them, anything like that can be replicated if the machinist is willing and the customer is willing to pay.

Standard procedure. I had these big headed blanks made for the odd ball deep joint set ups. McDermott quick release, Paradise and Schulers as an example of brand names.

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06-26-2019, 02:10 AM

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