Meucci Olympian value

Afrevele · Jun 23, 2020

Know this probably has been done before but...
Looking for a value for this stick. It is in immaculate condition. Both shafts look like they’ve only been hit a few times. The stick is signed by Shannon “The Cannon” Daulton and Robert Meucci. Not sure what the #5 is after his name? Thoughts?
Any insight on value would be appreciated!

asbani · Jun 23, 2020

Very nice cue, I’m not good at evaluating cues, but I did not know that Shannon the cannon played with a Meucci, this shocked me a bit.

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Scott Lee · Jun 23, 2020

Add to that pro players signatures add little to no value to the cue (unless it's somebody like Mosconi). Meucci's sig is worth more than Shannon's, if either are worth anything at all.

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asbani said:
Very nice cue, I’m not good at evaluating cues, but I did not know that Shannon the cannon played with a Meucci, this shocked me a bit.

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white1 · Jun 23, 2020

Prob sell for 2K

I wouldn’t pay it, but that’s where I would start.

ribdoner · Jun 23, 2020

asbani said:
Very nice cue, I’m not good at evaluating cues, but I did not know that Shannon the cannon played with a Meucci, this shocked me a bit.

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iirc he did, for a while

The black dot shafts are a liability

i sold a very nice example made in the late 80's, with custom "stiff" shafts, to a very good local player for $400 shortly after it left the Olive Branch factory making this cue worth 600+- (imo). the sigs don't add value

assuming the forearm/butt sleeve are ebony and not "something else"

asbani · Jun 23, 2020

ribdoner said:
iirc he did, for a while

The black dot shafts are a liability

i sold a very nice example made in the late 80's, with custom "stiff" shafts, to a very good local player for $400 shortly after it left the Olive Branch factory making this cue worth 600+- (imo). the sigs don't add value

assuming the forearm/butt sleeve are ebony and not "something else"

What you mean about when you said the forearm must be ebony and not something else? What can it be other than ebony or a wood, what something else can it be

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CocoboloCowboy · Jun 23, 2020

We have several collectors like Will Prout, I would ask for their honest opinions. I think you have a nice conversation piece.

ribdoner · Jun 23, 2020

asbani said:
What you mean about when you said the forearm must be ebony and not something else? What can it be other than ebony or a wood, what something else can it be

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They dyed maple many colors, don't know if this is applicable to this model

TATE · Jun 23, 2020

No exotic tree was endangered in the making of this cue!

asbani said:
What you mean about when you said the forearm must be ebony and not something else? What can it be other than ebony or a wood, what something else can it be

I don't think it affects the value ( I would say around $1000 give or take) , but according to this it's black plastic over a maple core. A lot of Meucci's used plastic instead of ebony and they have for many years now. Here's from budget's description:

Forearm: Birdseye maple covered with black plastic with four ivory colored columns with intricate scrimshawed lines. Also long red veneer lines with brass encased red veneer flames on top.

Sleeve: Ivory colored white plastic butt sleeve with inlaid pearlized plastic ovals set in cocobolo circles with veneer circles and diamonds.

https://www.budgetcues.com/discontinued/meucci-pool-cue-97-31b.htm

Diamond Jack · Jun 23, 2020

Around $500.-

jay helfert · Jun 23, 2020

Diamond Jack said:
Around $500.-

That's what I was going to say. Having Shannon's signature is a plus but really doesn't add to the value, unless you're a big fan of his. Now if you had a letter from him saying he used that cue in winning X that would mean something and might add some value to it.

The Meucci #5 probably means this is the fifth cue in this style he made. He may have made dozens more afterward.

mikemosconi · Jun 24, 2020

You are looking for true market value on this cue- what it would sell for in an open market auction setting- so if you were to put the cue on ebay starting at $1 no reserve for a full 10 day auction over two full weekends : Fri night to a Monday night 10 days later- i would say you will probably realize more than $450 and less than $600. Of course, if you personally wanted or needed to get more money out of it, you could list on on a site like this (AZ) for an asking price of say $800 and hope that some collector really wants this cue and someday offers you a close to asking price- your choice.

Afrevele · Jun 24, 2020

Not sure I fully agree with the value stated here. A brand new 95-31 goes for ~$1200. So how is it that you are saying it’s worth half that? Don’t follow the logic? I understand that the maple forearm Meucci Original version is more desirable and hence valued more but Can’t see this one being so low. Please explain. I did confirm with Meucci that this was from a run they made for Shannon to sell. Not sure how many were in that run, probably 10 or so I’d imagine.

ideologist · Jun 24, 2020

Afrevele said:
Not sure I fully agree with the value stated here. A brand new 95-31 goes for ~$1200. So how is it that you are saying it’s worth half that? Don’t follow the logic? I understand that the maple forearm Meucci Original version is more desirable and hence valued more but Can’t see this one being so low. Please explain. I did confirm with Meucci that this was from a run they made for Shannon to sell. Not sure how many were in that run, probably 10 or so I’d imagine.

It's a used pool cue.

PhilosopherKing · Jun 24, 2020

I think the cue makes over $500 all day everyday, especially on eBay.

Shannon’s signature may not add value, but it definitely widens the pool of potential buyers.

I wouldn’t be a buyer for an ordinary Olympian, but as a fan of old-school one pocket, I would love to own your cue.

mikemosconi · Jun 24, 2020

mikemosconi said:
You are looking for true market value on this cue- what it would sell for in an open market auction setting- so if you were to put the cue on ebay starting at $1 no reserve for a full 10 day auction over two full weekends : Fri night to a Monday night 10 days later- i would say you will probably realize more than $450 and less than $600. Of course, if you personally wanted or needed to get more money out of it, you could list on on a site like this (AZ) for an asking price of say $800 and hope that some collector really wants this cue and someday offers you a close to asking price- your choice.

Hey Man, people are responding to you based upon years of selling and buying cues on the open market; so that is the basis of my response above. It is only our opinions, you should maybe put it in an ebay auction and see what you get at the end, I bet it IS somewhere between $450 and $600- with a high of $800 if the circumstances all happen to come together for you in the auction.

ribdoner · Jun 24, 2020

Afrevele said:
Not sure I fully agree with the value stated here. A brand new 95-31 goes for ~$1200. So how is it that you are saying it’s worth half that? Don’t follow the logic? I understand that the maple forearm Meucci Original version is more desirable and hence valued more but Can’t see this one being so low. Please explain. I did confirm with Meucci that this was from a run they made for Shannon to sell. Not sure how many were in that run, probably 10 or so I’d imagine.

what do you think dealer COST is? i'd guess it's 30 to 50% of retail based on their performance and ability to negotiate

dealers have been known to sell at close to cost predicated on their economic, or lack thereof, health

older cues which featured more wood (that wasn't dyed) and less "something else" do better on the secondary market

HereWeGo · Jun 24, 2020

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Meucci-Oly...386024?hash=item263ebdd728:g:lxMAAOSw5KVe8-rv

CocoboloCowboy · Jun 25, 2020

ideologist said:
It's a used pool cue.

That is actually funny, as I remember that line constantly from a member on AZB who was kind as wheeler dealer, guy felt nothing was worth anything.

Unless he was the seller.

garczar · Jun 25, 2020

HereWeGo said:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Meucci-Oly...386024?hash=item263ebdd728:g:lxMAAOSw5KVe8-rv

Its worth about half that.

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