Bar box problems

Chicken_Blood

Chicken_Blood

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I have been playing exclusively on 8' & 9' tables for about four years know. Anyway I recently moved to a small town where there aren’t anything but bar boxes. Its like I just started playing. I can’t slow roll because the tables not level. The cloth is full of chalk and the balls have never been cleaned. Any bar box specialists out there who can clue me in?

Thanks
 
landshark77

landshark77

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Well I can't play to save my life on anything but the bar boxes in the exact condition that you just described, lol. I dunno how to help you though. :(
 
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christyd

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Chicken_Blood said:
I have been playing exclusively on 8' & 9' tables for about four years know. Anyway I recently moved to a small town where there aren’t anything but bar boxes. Its like I just started playing. I can’t slow roll because the tables not level. The cloth is full of chalk and the balls have never been cleaned. Any bar box specialists out there who can clue me in?

Thanks
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I feel your pain...........I hate barboxes.....lol
Seriously though, one thing that has helped me is I try to avoid slow rolling the ball and I shorten down my bridge.

Christyd
 
cuejoey

cuejoey

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just an idea ..try to make the best of what you have..talk with the owner and get your own machinest level if you have to and level it yourself..also get a brush and damp rag to clean the cloth..when i was playing in a regular place that's what i did....do the best you can with the equiptment ....good luck on your playing ........you will do just fine....
 
landshark77

landshark77

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Chicken_Blood said:
Man that ranking system would just kick my ass.
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Yeah well, you would be able to adapt to the not so great equipment, lmao!

Cue Joey has a great idea, I know the person who does this where I play out off. We are lucky because the owner actually really cares and changes the rails and cloth frequently. The tables still roll off and the cloth isn't the best grade, but I know other places that have holes in the felt and the rails are dead. If the owner plays the more likely the equipment will be taken care of a bit better. JMHO.
 
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recoveryjones

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Another thing that you are probably experiencing difficulty with is the oversize cueball often found on coin operated bar box tables? Is the cue ball oversized? If so tops is more often the shots of choice as bottoms is a lot tougher apparently with the bigger cue ball.There are other problems and things to deal with concering the larger cue ball and cut shot problems that need some adjustments.Other people here might know more than me and could probably elaborate a little more than I can.

Also there's the alcohol/vision factor. :D RJ
 
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mastercueartist

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I understand your frustration. Many Many years ago I went to a game with one of the best players that ever lived.Now the table was located on neutral groung so to speak as it was only dropped in place a few hours prior.
I looked at him and said there is no way we can lock down and shoot on this junk!!! He looked at me and said "Well your opponent has to shoot on the same junk you do".He was right ,Yes I prefer to shoot on a GC1 but a table is a table if you got moxy.I really like the other suggestion also.Clean the table up and level it off.Maybe if you build enough repore with the owner he will start takeing better care of the table .
 
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Rod

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Chicken_Blood said:
I have been playing exclusively on 8' & 9' tables for about four years know. Anyway I recently moved to a small town where there aren’t anything but bar boxes. Its like I just started playing. I can’t slow roll because the tables not level. The cloth is full of chalk and the balls have never been cleaned. Any bar box specialists out there who can clue me in?

Thanks
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Get to know your equipment. C/b's roll because there not round or out of center balance (absolutly nothing you can do on a slow roll). Play the shots you can with more speed but use low english. This helps keep the c/b on a straight line. Your not trying to draw the ball just using more speed. ( drag type draw). If it turns over before the o/b it will still follow but a may be slightly different line.

K are you confused yet? LOL The table isn't level, see above. It's to detailed to go in depth but speed used with the correct stroke will reduce or elimate table rolls. Bar boxes, whether c/b induced or table induced is something we all deal with. Even big tables may need attention in this area. It's not just a bar box, play on a 12 footer sometime.

Rod
 
lukeinva

lukeinva

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mastercueartist said:
I understand your frustration. Many Many years ago I went to a game with one of the best players that ever lived.Now the table was located on neutral groung so to speak as it was only dropped in place a few hours prior.
I looked at him and said there is no way we can lock down and shoot on this junk!!! He looked at me and said "Well your opponent has to shoot on the same junk you do".He was right ,Yes I prefer to shoot on a GC1 but a table is a table if you got moxy.I really like the other suggestion also.Clean the table up and level it off.Maybe if you build enough repore with the owner he will start takeing better care of the table .
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Tell him you will take care of the tables for $20 each a week and then start an APA league!! or move to another town like I said before!
 
Jack Flanagan

Jack Flanagan

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I got tired of the same thing, chicken blood,,,,so I bought the pool room,,,I'm the worst person in the world when it comes to experimenting,,,,I currently use 4 different kinds of cloth and 4 different rail rubbers, but they're all on dynamo barboxes,,,one table is so fast, only the brave actually shoot on it,,,LOL
 
MFB

MFB

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Chicken_Blood said:
I have been playing exclusively on 8' & 9' tables for about four years know. Anyway I recently moved to a small town where there aren’t anything but bar boxes. Its like I just started playing. I can’t slow roll because the tables not level. The cloth is full of chalk and the balls have never been cleaned. Any bar box specialists out there who can clue me in?

Thanks
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Don't slow roll. Use a lot of stun shots. Use other balls to stop the cueball. Stay away from your object ball, play area position, not pinpoint. Learn the goofy rolls and use them to your advantage.
 
Mike Templeton

Mike Templeton

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Rodd said:
Get to know your equipment.
Rod
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Getting to know the equipment is the key. And be patient. The same thing happened to me when I moved from Greenville, SC (all big table action) to Chattanooga (all bar box action). I was frustrated at first, but practiced on the bar boxes for a few months. After a little time, you will adjust and it won't be such a big deal.

MIke
 
chefjeff

chefjeff

If not now...
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Chicken_Blood said:
I have been playing exclusively on 8' & 9' tables for about four years know. Anyway I recently moved to a small town where there aren’t anything but bar boxes. Its like I just started playing. I can’t slow roll because the tables not level. The cloth is full of chalk and the balls have never been cleaned. Any bar box specialists out there who can clue me in?

Thanks
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Until about 3 months ago, I was stuck playing exclusively on barboxes. You'll live.

There's a technique called, barbox speed. That is, don't even attempt to slow roll a normal shot. Hit it ala 9-ball speed. The draw-drag shot comes in real handy on crappy barboxes when you want a soft touch on the object ball.

Exception: I was on a barbox playing "bar" rules (call kisses, etc.) the other night. I broke and ran down to the 8, but it was just barely blocked from the pocket by a ball. I thought if I hit it softly enough, being it was in the worn area where the balls are racked, it just might curve around the interfering ball. So, I gave it my best soft shot, the 8 rolled by the interfering ball, curved left as I had hoped (!!!), touched the end rail, hit the tit, and went in for the win! I laughed inside, but the crowd watching all gasped, thinking I was a pool God with special powers. ;)

One guy said I didn't call the two rails, but I laughed him off, as I thought he wasn't serious (turns out he was :rolleyes: ). I took the win, anyway.

Jeff Livingston
 
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