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Has anyone ever tried this? - 04-15-2005, 08:57 AM

I was working on my english yesterday. Playing with the bridge pivot point. Essentially line up center ball and then pivot on your bridge hand to apply english. I realized something really cool. For slower shots I use a longer bridge ~10" and for faster shots I would use a shorter bridge ~6". I was making almost everything on a 9' Table with pretty tight pockets. I suggest trying it out.
  
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04-15-2005, 09:05 AM

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I was working on my english yesterday. Playing with the bridge pivot point. Essentially line up center ball and then pivot on your bridge hand to apply english. I realized something really cool. For slower shots I use a longer bridge ~10" and for faster shots I would use a shorter bridge ~6". I was making almost everything on a 9' Table with pretty tight pockets. I suggest trying it out.

What happens if you're using a Predator?

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04-15-2005, 09:29 AM

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I was working on my english yesterday. Playing with the bridge pivot point. Essentially line up center ball and then pivot on your bridge hand to apply english. I realized something really cool. For slower shots I use a longer bridge ~10" and for faster shots I would use a shorter bridge ~6". I was making almost everything on a 9' Table with pretty tight pockets. I suggest trying it out.
What? Backhand english? No! Never!

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04-15-2005, 09:35 AM

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What? Backhand english? No! Never!

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SHHHHHHH!!!! don't say the word's backhand english............you're venturing into the world of mystery here on AZB...........here we go with the flamers

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04-15-2005, 09:48 AM

I've just started hearing "backhand english", care to explain exactly what you mean? Some people have different names for the same thing.

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04-15-2005, 10:14 AM

I don't find any mystery to Backhand English.
Aim your shot through the center of the cue ball, then pivot the back hand to obtain the desired amount of side spin (english) while keeping your bridge hand stable.

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04-15-2005, 10:31 AM

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I don't find any mystery to Backhand English.
Aim your shot through the center of the cue ball, then pivot the back hand to obtain the desired amount of side spin (english) while keeping your bridge hand stable.

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i was referring to the "other" things that are associated with backhand english.

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04-15-2005, 10:32 AM

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I don't find any mystery to Backhand English.
Aim your shot through the center of the cue ball, then pivot the back hand to obtain the desired amount of side spin (english) while keeping your bridge hand stable.

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And what is it called when you aim center ball and swipe your shooting hand slightly to the side when you start your forward stroke to strike the CB?

And what is it called when you place the tip of the cue off center of the CB and then pivot back to the center without moving your bridge hand?
  
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And what is it called when you aim center ball and swipe your shooting hand slightly to the side when you start your forward stroke to strike the CB?

And what is it called when you place the tip of the cue off center of the CB and then pivot back to the center without moving your bridge hand?
the above is what i'm talking about............LET THE WAR BEGIN...........LOL

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04-15-2005, 10:36 AM

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SHHHHHHH!!!! don't say the word's backhand english............you're venturing into the world of mystery here on AZB...........here we go with the flamers

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Not so much to the flamers, but to the physics geeks and certified instructors that feel you should only shoot on parallel lines. Ooops, sorry I corrected you....you were right in using "flamers". Sometimes there's another word that follows it though, as in flaming...........
  
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04-15-2005, 12:13 PM

My wife BACK HANDED me the other day when I told her how much money I lost...
  
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04-15-2005, 12:38 PM

I've tried parallel english and it doesn't work at all. I always overcut when using inside english. I don't have a predator shaft, just a regular Joss. BTW I thought backhand english was when you pivot during the actual stroke. I am talking about pivoting when lining up the shot.
  
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04-15-2005, 01:44 PM

The terminology gets confusing when different people use the same term for different things.

I learned that backhand english is when you pivot after aiming.

Pivoting during the stroke is sometimes called "swiping". No matter what it's called, I think it's difficult to master since the amount of side spin is effectively done "on the fly".

Aim and pivoting back to center is another completely different animal.

Parallel aiming / side spin requires compensation for deflection / squirt which is dependent on the specific shaft and it's pivot point.

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I've tried parallel english and it doesn't work at all. I always overcut when using inside english. I don't have a predator shaft, just a regular Joss. BTW I thought backhand english was when you pivot during the actual stroke. I am talking about pivoting when lining up the shot.

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04-15-2005, 01:59 PM

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BTW I thought backhand english was when you pivot during the actual stroke. I am talking about pivoting when lining up the shot.

Would the final outcome of the tip striking the ball in the same spot not be the same?
  
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