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butterfly splices/points? - 05-10-2010, 07:00 PM

i was just admiring some of the cues in the FS section and was jsut wondering how these were made? laminated strips before turning them down? or use a bit to cut them in and then press in laminations before turning down? as you can see ive been tryin to figure it out cause thats the type of brain i have but i just cant figure it out lol thanks for any help
  
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05-10-2010, 07:52 PM

Brent, BHQ is the resident BF maker. Maybe he will spill and let us in on some trade secrets.
Cause I wouldn't mind knowing some of the intricacies myself.
  
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05-10-2010, 10:22 PM

You can see the technique in action on Chris Hightower's videos.
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05-11-2010, 04:16 AM

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i was just admiring some of the cues in the FS section and was jsut wondering how these were made? laminated strips before turning them down? or use a bit to cut them in and then press in laminations before turning down? as you can see ive been tryin to figure it out cause thats the type of brain i have but i just cant figure it out lol thanks for any help
here's basic butterfly 101,
because that's all i know how to draw
and i'm just a basic kind of guy

for this example, this is two points on a forearm
the black is cut to a wedge
the blue gets glued onto each side
*i'd love to find some blue wood

the angle of the cut determines two things ,
1) the steeper the angle will make them wider
if not steep enough, then they look too thin like needles

2) the measurement at the spot on the black,
the width between the blues, determines where the butterflies will fall after it's turned to round
at my cutting angle, for every 10/1000ths turned off , the butterfly moves back approx. 100/1000ths

this isn't "splicing"
i guess you could call it "laminating"


that help?
i'm putting a couple 3 point forearms together right now
i'll try to get you a few real pics , not drawings





  
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05-11-2010, 05:49 AM

What Brent won't tell you is the "real" secret to catching butterflies with wings that are big enough to laminate between wood layers. Don't even get him started on the different colors of butterflies.

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05-11-2010, 09:39 AM

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What Brent won't tell you is the "real" secret to catching butterflies with wings that are big enough to laminate between wood layers. Don't even get him started on the different colors of butterflies.

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LOL
yeah, me & colors dont mix

this was glued up yesterday
step 1 of a 3pointer




after turning off the excess , getting ready for the second cut





  
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05-11-2010, 12:09 PM

ok so the veneers/wood being laminated in is flat and the forearm/handle/butt section is just milled flat and then both are turned round and depending on the angle depends on how thin or thick the butterflies are? i get that right?
  
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05-11-2010, 12:34 PM

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ok so the veneers/wood being laminated in is flat and the forearm/handle/butt section is just milled flat and then both are turned round and depending on the angle depends on how thin or thick the butterflies are? i get that right?
you got it
now youre ready to build bflys

added: the thickness of the veneer determines how long each bfly is





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05-11-2010, 04:02 PM

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*i'd love to find some blue wood

No idea what it's called.
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*i'd love to find some blue wood

No idea what it's called.
even as colorblind as i am,
i'd say that is BLUE




  
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05-11-2010, 04:27 PM

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05-11-2010, 05:53 PM

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I believe its Smurfwood.
It is pretty tho and a nice veneer color.
  
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*i'd love to find some blue wood
Brent,

Isn't this one of your cues?

That sure looks like a blue butterfly to me.

Camera?



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Brent,

Isn't this one of your cues?

That sure looks like a blue butterfly to me.

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blue veneers @ .9mm thick
i was talking about thicker boards for the outer butterflies




  
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05-11-2010, 06:50 PM

so if thickness affects the size of the butterfly then how do you take it down? with a planer? or just with sandpaper/ sander?
  
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